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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:15

What are the specs on the PS4 PS? USFF PCs have managed it with silence up to 240W I think, maybe more. Custom Server PSUs up to 500, see Digital Storm Bolt (my personal desktop).

 

The current PSUs in most Mini-ITX can power the current Intel Quad Cores plus any GPU not requiring external power, but most of them are not silent. The Dell OptiPlex are. Just a matter of how much profit they want to make off the hardware. I'll vote for internal any day.

 

 

They've said the PS+ sub for MP now is partly to help with the value in offering the PS4 at $399 so I'm guessing they're not netting not a lot. Potentially even a small loss with how bad the yen tracks the dollar.




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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:18

Excellent. That's good news.  Hopefully they will have well thought-out cooling routes.

All that power in such a small area would be a pretty big concern.

 

yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4.    not showing the console originally does not matter,   now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor)



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:23

yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4.    not showing the console originally does not matter,   now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor)

 

Ohhh no, Neowin told us it was a disaster in February that they didn't  :rolleyes:



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:28

yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4.    not showing the console originally does not matter,   now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor)

 

opinions are now facts. they're both boxes, but I prefer the cleaner Xbox one design.

 

still it should have been a standard stereo component width. 



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:30

Dunno how they did it but pretty sweet that it's that small. I was shocked by that alone when I saw the pictures.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:42

http://www.neowin.ne...#entry595764660

 

so you created two threads for the same topic because??????



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:45

Also shown here as the power connector is the standard two prong cable connector (like PS3)

Was it changed to a 2-pin connector with the PS3 slim? Because my fat PS3 uses the 3-pin "kettle cord" connector; the same one that's used with PC power supplies..



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:45

I wonder if you could install Windows on the PS4 because its a X86/64 processor?



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:45

"PS4 is quite the engineering marvel" and then uses a picture of the xbox one innards *facepalm*



#25 WinMunkee

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:46

<p>Seeing as how the PS4 doesn't have HDMI in, and some of the chips that Xbox One has,&nbsp;which cause the machine to be so wide, and instead of using a full sized Blu-Ray drive, the PS4 uses a laptop drive which reduces height. So,&nbsp;I don't think it's as much an engineering marvel as it is just lacking in hardware. It's a great system, sure, but definitely not a technological marvel. I'm not praising the Xbox over the Playstation, but there are things the playstation is missing compared to the Xbox One.</p>

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:48

Was it changed to a 2-pin connector with the PS3 slim? Because my fat PS3 uses the 3-pin "kettle cord" connector; the same one that's used with PC power supplies..

 

Yeah 2 pin for slim.


"PS4 is quite the engineering marvel" and then uses a picture of the xbox one innards *facepalm*

 

It's quite clearly there for reference if you read the whole post... We do not have a picture of the inside of the PS4 yet. What you can imagine is where did Sony put the power supply considering the MS box is fairly full already.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:52

<p>Seeing as how the PS4 doesn't have HDMI in, and some of the chips that Xbox One has,&nbsp;which cause the machine to be so wide, and&nbsp;instead of using a full sized Blu-Ray drive, the PS4 uses a laptop drive which reduces height. So,&nbsp;I don't think it's as much an engineering marvel as it is just lacking in hardware. It's a great system, sure, but definitely not a technological marvel. I'm not praising the Xbox over the Playstation, but there are things the playstation is missing compared to the Xbox One.</p>

like the 24 hr online check and unplayable used games. i totally agree



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:53

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like the 24 hr online check and unplayable used games. i totally agree

meh, I always have my Xbox connected to begin with, so that point is null for me. I never play offline, and I usually play MP games. Nothing changes for me. Also, I was talking about hardware, not software, even there the PS4 is lacking. Again, both great systems, the Xbox One does more.</p>

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:54

To be fair, the PS3 did look like a george foreman grill when it was released. The first PS3 was a behemoth and had not many games at launch.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:59

http://www.neowin.ne...#entry595764660

 

so you created two threads for the same topic because??????

You linked to the same thread. Audioboxer didn't create two threads about the same topic. :huh:

 

"PS4 is quite the engineering marvel" and then uses a picture of the xbox one innards *facepalm*

It helps to read before jumping to conclusions. The Xbox One image was used for comparison.

 

This is not a size comparison thread but a question of ''how did they do it?!'' Why is the Xbox One bigger? This is how it looks inside: