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#1 +Frank B.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:06

Windows RT facing pressure from being isolated

 

Microsoft's Windows RT operating system may fall to the same fate as Hewlett-Packard's (HP) webOS as most brand vendors have already stopped developing related products, leaving Microsoft's second-generation Surface RT, the only Windows RT-based device in the next-generation tablet competition, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.
 
Microsoft is also having trouble gaining growth in the smartphone industry, the company currently only has less than 1% and 3% shares in tablet and smartphone markets, respectively, the sources said.
 
Although Microsoft has been pushing measures including adding Outlook e-mail and calendar applications to its Surface RT, dropping Surface RT's prices in Japan, and providing students special prices for its Surface RT, to promote the ARM-based operating system, the efforts are unlikely to be answered with demand, the sources noted.
 
As for the smartphone segment, players such as Acer, Asustek Computer and ZTE, have also recently started postponing development of Windows Phone 8-based products, making Microsoft face difficulties gaining momentum in the mobile device market, the sources added.
 
The sources pointed out that Microsoft is also facing competition from operating system such as Chrome and Tizen, in the PC industry, and Windows 8.1's success will be important for maintaining Microsoft's morale in the IT market.
 
Source: Digitimes



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:08

Wow. They can't compete with Surface so they gave up. Shameful.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:13

the beauty of windows rt is that it doesn't have to do anything at all to become huge, it can rely on windows 8 to do all the work. ARM is still cheaper than intel,so RT will still exist. 



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:20

this article is funny: a few days ago a article claimed that all the indicators show that a second gen RT was coming soon; now the same indicators show that RT is a failure? this product has only a year of life, give it time to grown.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:28

as an RT tablet and Win8 Pro desktop owner I'm not surprised.

 

as much as I try to like RT tablets (or Pro tablets) the operating system just isn't properly designed.

 

Example....(it's just one of many btw)

 

iPad/Android.....  Perform a system update (2 minutes) DONE.  Factory reset device (1 minute).  Device is still up to date

 

Windows RT/Pro....  Perform Windows Updates (2 Hours & 4 Reboots).  Then do MS Store App Updates (9 times out of 10 they hang).  Reboot, try again.  Factory Reset (30 minutes).  Device now needs fully updating again.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:36

this article is funny: a few days ago a article claimed that all the indicators show that a second gen RT was coming soon; now the same indicators show that RT is a failure? this product has only a year of life, give it time to grown.

The two are not mutually exclusive. The Surface RT has significantly underperformed in the market place but Microsoft wants Windows RT to be a success, so it will push ahead with a second gen model regardless. Third party manufacturers have all but abandoned the platform and consumer demand appears to be weak, so I think it's fair to class Windows RT as a failure.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:41

this article is funny: a few days ago a article claimed that all the indicators show that a second gen RT was coming soon; now the same indicators show that RT is a failure? this product has only a year of life, give it time to grown.

I've actually read today that beyond Microsoft no other companies are actively developing a second generation of Windows RT devices.

 

 

Wow. They can't compete with Surface so they gave up. Shameful.

Or consumers just aren't all that interested.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:43

 

The sources pointed out that Microsoft is also facing competition from operating system such as Chrome and Tizen, in the PC industry

:D :laugh: :rofl:



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:47

 

The sources pointed out that Microsoft is also facing competition from operating system such as Chrome and Tizen, in the PC industry, and Windows 8.1's success will be important for maintaining Microsoft's morale in the IT market.
 
Source: Digitimes

 

 

What the hell?  Tizen hasn't been released yet.  Chrome, maybe since it has been recently announced that Chromebooks will be available in three times as many locations soon than it is now.  But that depends on if they sell.



Or consumers just aren't all that interested.

 

 

And with Office for iPhone, and probably soon for iPad...will not help RT any.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:51

Wow. They can't compete with Surface so they gave up. Shameful.

Who's ass did you pull that gem from?



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:53

Does ARM processors facing pressure from being isolated?? Short answer: NO they are awesome and they are everywhere.

So why the Windows (RT) version that is design to specifically support ARM, is facing pressure from being isolated?



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:56

Windows RT/Pro....  Perform Windows Updates (2 Hours & 4 Reboots).  Then do MS Store App Updates (9 times out of 10 they hang).  Reboot, try again.  Factory Reset (30 minutes).  Device now needs fully updating again.

 

Holy ######! 2 hours?! What the hell are you doing? I've restored Windows 8 in less than 30 minutes, that includes updates.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:57

Im soooo tired of retarded articles like this...as soon as I see this uninformed garbage I move on



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:58

Holy ****! 2 hours?! What the hell are you doing? I've restored Windows 8 in less than 30 minutes, that includes updates.

That and you can use RT with managed update services so downloading takes seconds

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"WUServer"="https://wsus.me.com:8531/"
"WUStatusServer"="https://wsus.me.com:8531/"



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:59

Who's ass did you pull that gem from?

 

Not once did OEMs even try to release a competing RT tablet, they simply gave up instead of trying to do anything meaningful.