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First is family sharing, this feature is near and dear to me and I truly felt it would have helped the industry grow and make both gamers and developers happy. The premise is simple and elegant, when you buy your games for Xbox One, you can set any of them to be part of your shared library. Anyone who you deem to be family had access to these games regardless of where they are in the world. There was never any catch to that, they didn

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Lulz, well that confirms it then. If something is too good to be true, it usually is.

 

I wonder how many still want DRM/24hr auth back now? :laugh: Seriously some delusional people who thought they could share entire games without restrictions at a fraction of the cost.

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Did anyone actually expect to be allowed to share their entire library with 10 people? More fool them.
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Did anyone actually expect to be allowed to share their entire library with 10 people? More fool them.

 

Yup, it seems "half of Neowin" thought they'd be exploiting cheap games galore... from MS.... really. "The used game market is killing the industry!"... "Lets allow one copy of a game to be bought at steam prices, then shared to 10 people".

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Sounds pretty true tbh. It seemed really unlikely that they'd let multiple people no matter where they were have full access to someone elses games like some people were (foolishly) dreaming of.

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Lulz, well that confirms it then. If something is too good to be true, it usually is.

 

I wonder how many still want DRM/24hr auth back now? :laugh: Seriously some delusional people who thought they could share entire games without restrictions at a fraction of the cost.

Still worth it to get rid of the disadvantages of discs while still getting the advantages of it.

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Lol at the calling people delusional, when in truth you had no idea about this restriction either.

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So we're going to trust posts by people who now know they can't be proven wrong? New low.

 

Nobody but MS knew the truth, let's remember that before jumping on the bandwagon.

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Lol at the calling people delusional, when in truth you had no idea about this restriction either.

 

I didn't need to hear it from Microsoft. AB and I have been explaining this for days now....

 

 

"The used game market is killing the industry!"... "Lets allow one copy of a game to be bought at steam prices, then shared to 10 people".

 

(Y)

 

SMH :rolleyes:

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So we're going to trust posts by people who now know they can't be proven wrong? New low.

 

Nobody but MS knew the truth, let's remember that before jumping on the bandwagon.

 

Versus all you guys saying it was a revolutionary feature and your little granny in Australia was going to get to play all your games? Think about what is realistic in this gaming industry, and while we can't 100% fact check against something that is no more, the OP has a pretty detailed link of Xbox One stuff.

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I'd still like to see these features implemented on digital copies either away. But yeah I suppose the family sharing being a timed thing does make sense.

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it is good news to know that it's still on the table. I had said I will buy digital so as to get the disc-less gameplay so I can call up any game at any time without having to go look for a disc or wonder if someone had borrowed it.

about the family share I'm glad to know it's still on the table for digital titles

I'm sad to know that they removed the option to trade/resell digital titles (but oh well, win some lose some)

it was said that 2 people playing the same game played the full game (eg. co-op). with the other games offered to the 10 family who had access I'm sure it wouldn't have been the full game.

but maybe they will come around. 

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You know what the 1 redeeming feature of "Family Sharing", would be? Provided the game is in your social circle, every game sold would have a demo available to try. In turn that means devs don't need to take time away from developing to create a special cut down version. They're often complaining about having to spend time meeting deadlines for builds to all the trade shows etc. This would have taken away some of the pressure. Although I'm sure Activision would have done their best to block it, seeing as they don't send out review copies as it is, never mind demos.

 

Of course like I say, it would be limited to what's available in your group of 10 but whatever.

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Still would have been a good feature, but I think this makes MUCH more sense than everyone's claim that you'd just be able to share a game that easily. I mean, if the publishers are truly behind the reasoning for a 24-hour check in, why would it make any sense that the publishers would be totally fine with sharing games in this manner? Think about it: if they don't want you to continue sharing your game for a week, why would they deem it okay to so easily share a game with one person indefinitely? That would ruin sales, would it not?

 

That's the part that never added up to me. Everyone just kept crying about all of this though, claiming those critiquing the 24 hour check in were responsible for ruining their DRM party, but I don't see any party. Lots of this just didn't add up to begin with...

 

I think we need to take a moment and remember that Microsoft, just like any other company for that matter, is not your friend. If you see a good product, by all means buy it; however, let's quit pretending that each and every company is out for our best interests and remember what it is we want as gamers.

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I love the "It doesn't exist now so everyone who thinks it will exist is delusional and it can't possibly be true or happen" line of thinking going on.  If we all went by that, we'd be back in the dark ages.  There are plenty of ways full sharing could be implemented and work just fine for the market if not bolster it, but I feel like my time would be better spent talking to a wall than explaining things here.

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boo fucking hoo. That guy can cry me a river.

He made it perfectly clear that it was a way to drive revenue. A fun way to make us spend more.

How much has MW3 made...
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T
 
Neogafs insider who got everything right for E3



HAHAHAHAHA oh you kill me....

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HAHAHAHAHA oh you kill me....

 

#dealwithit

 

Moving this post here since this seems to be the new thread.

What's funny is that they DID hint at this. In an obfuscated way. We just never noticed.

Remember when the DRM was first revealed? The easiest complaint was "What if I wanted to take it to my friend's house?"

Remember the response?

http://gamerant.com/xbox-one-interne...n-requirement/


http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/07/no-fee...uired-3832010/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...-always-online

We just glossed over that because we figured, during the PEAK of the "24 hour check" freakout, that 1 hour offline for visiting a friend was just more shit on the cake.

Nope.

That was the max amount of time a friend could play a copy. Period

It was in front of our face the whole time.

 

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598291

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Credit where credit is due though, it's actually a great idea. Not only does pretty much every game have a demo, but your progress is also saved, further enticing you to make that purchase. Genius.

 

No wonder he's gutted.

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Lulz, well that confirms it then. If something is too good to be true, it usually is.

 

 

 

Yep

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this whole rumor was from a freakin pastebin supposedly from a ms employee on the xbox team

 

http://pastebin.com/TE1MWES2

 

you know what else I found on pastebin? make a thread about that

 

http://pastebin.com/Nre9WEht

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MS probably demands all games have some form of demo now anyways, like they do with Xbox, WP and Windows 8 now that everything is DD on release day.

Seems more like this dude is taking some out of context statements that actually contradict him, to prove a rumor that can't be proven wrong. Even when MS eventually releases the redone family sharing for DD games, and maybe down the line discs he can just claim "well they changed it" if its not what he says now. And if MS now releases a statement saying it would work differently well then he can claim "we'll they say that now, when they dropped it".

It's an unproven rumor with nothing to back it up, from a source that has had a few food hits, but not nearly as infallible as someone makes him out to be.
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and people actually thought they would let you have full access to 10 family members games? :rofl:

 

I knew there would be some catch to this, it just didn't sound right after what they were trying to implement with DRM policies.

 

I can't even imagine what a shitstorm that would have been if they didn't tell people about this before the release.

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Wow this shits epic. Lol family demo sharing.

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