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#1 compl3x

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 05:59

Fox News host uses this funny thing called 'logic'

 

 

It's not every day that you can say a Fox News personality makes a rational argument regarding any of today's hottest trends and hobbies, but stranger things have happened.

 

In a recent segment of his talk show, John Stossel speaks to Franklin Graham, leader of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, on the issue of violent videogames and whether they should be taxed or not. Graham thumbs the Bible for a good while as Stossel looks on, dumbfounded that such bile could drip from a person's mouth, then he proceeds to "drop the bomb."

 

Many of Stossel's arguments are facts we've heard countless times on games outlets -- youth violence has decreased as violent games in the market increased -- but it's refreshing to hear a major news network actually acknowledge that the anti-games agenda is ridiculous. Way to go, Stossel. You've got balls of steel.

 

Do Video Games Lead to Violence? [Stossel Show via Kotaku]

 

 

 

 

You have to go to the link if you wish to see the video. It isn't a youtube video I can embed here.

 

http://www.destructo...nt-256801.phtml




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Posted 23 June 2013 - 06:25

Graham's delusions come from a myopic view of the world with America at it's center, and a nostalgic idealized view of the 1940s/1950s America of his childhood. Violent video games and movies are popular all around the world, even the places with some of the lowest violent crime on the planet. The murder rate in general in America has been steadily decreasing over the last 20 years, and there was certainly violence in those old western, gangster, and war movies that he grew up with.

 

This is all about taxing the people any and every way possible as well. Taxing violence he's pushing for... I bet he also complains about how many regulations there are on businesses and how bloated and complicated the tax system is for the common person, but he's still for taxing violence, and probably anything else purchase related that someone could make a half witted case for.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:09

It's very hard to watch the video. Not because John Stossel win the debate but Graham had no clue on what he was talking about. He was really only the to debate about violate video games but to talk about how Jesus/Bible/Christians is the way of life. I'm so glad non-theist is winning the way.

 

Anyway if Graham was the tax violate entertainment then we should be taxing the Bible which is one of the most violate text book out there today and people will kill for it.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:23

It's very hard to watch the video. Not because John Stossel win the debate but Graham had no clue on what he was talking about. He was really only the to debate about violate video games but to talk about how Jesus/Bible/Christians is the way of life. I'm so glad non-theist is winning the way.

 

Anyway if Graham was the tax violate entertainment then we should be taxing the Bible which is one of the most violate text book out there today and people will kill for it.

 
I love you! lol.

But FYI the whole violent games/films nonsense is little more than history repeating. Google Frank Zappa and his fight against censorship of music and its art.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:44

 


But FYI the whole violent games/films nonsense is little more than history repeating. Google Frank Zappa and his fight against censorship of music and its art.

 

Too true. Video games are just the latest bogeyman. It used to be rap, now accusing rap music of causing violence seems rather quaint. Before that it was heavy metal music and violent film. Before that? Rock n Roll. Before that? Jazz and swing music. I do wonder what will come after video games.

 

And the problem is always the same: not one shred of evidence to corroborate the argument.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:18

Worse, the Bible (and specifically the New Testament) makes the same point Stossel did - it's specifically made in the Parable of the Coin.  It's why I have a major issue with theocracies - and especially Christian ones (including, if not especially, the State of the Vatican) - the State of the Vatican, merely by existing, stomps all over that parable.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 23:46

I think Jesus would be appalled with many of the people today that use his name for their ignorance.





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