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For years, multimillionaires have been bullying beach-goers in Malibu, California, trying hard to keep them away from the pristine

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That Lender lady has a point--if the beach isn't equipped to handle a lot of people, it could be ruined. One thing I loved about a lot of beaches in Brasil was the tranquility and natural state of it--wasn't polluted or built up, just all trees and the way it was meant to be. I can see why, if they pay millions of dollars for the house because of its location, they'd like to preserve the worth of said location.

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having grown up my whole kid life in California, doesn't surprise me one bit! Freakin California man...

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That Lender lady has a point--if the beach isn't equipped to handle a lot of people, it could be ruined. One thing I loved about a lot of beaches in Brasil was the tranquility and natural state of it--wasn't polluted or built up, just all trees and the way it was meant to be. I can see why, if they pay millions of dollars for the house because of its location, they'd like to preserve the worth of said location.

 

What about people that do not go all day.  Just want to spend a few hours at the beach the head home.  Ruined?  It is a public beach same as all the rest, it is not ruined.  These owners just want to have privacy so they can sit out on the backyards but that does not make it right.

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What about people that do not go all day.  Just want to spend a few hours at the beach the head home.  Ruined?  It is a public beach same as all the rest, it is not ruined.  These owners just want to have privacy so they can sit out on the backyards but that does not make it right.

Those are the worst. It's not something they have to/get to see on a daily basis so they don't take care of it like someone who sees it daily.  Those are the people that tend to not give a damn other than there one time experience and end up trashing it.

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The counties could surely put in a few port-a-potties, and a few trash dumpsters ... ?

 

There needs to be some cooperation on both sides.

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The counties could surely put in a few port-a-potties, and a few trash dumpsters ... ?

 

There needs to be some cooperation on both sides.

Sounds about right.

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Those are the worst. It's not something they have to/get to see on a daily basis so they don't take care of it like someone who sees it daily.  Those are the people that tend to not give a damn other than there one time experience and end up trashing it.

 

Still its a public location.  North County has no life guards, bathrooms and it is one of the most popular surfing location and they are no disgusting as owners of Malibu would imply would happen at that PUBLIC beach in their back yard.

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Still its a public location.  North County has no life guards, bathrooms and it is one of the most popular surfing location and they are no disgusting as owners of Malibu would imply would happen at that PUBLIC beach in their back yard.

Did you know these people are not just saying that it will happen? They say it has already happen. These are the same people that clean the beaches because nobody else will clean it, let alone not trash it in the first place? It's great that it works out for North County, but that is not the case in Malibu.

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Did you know these people are not just saying that it will happen? They say it has already happen. These are the same people that clean the beaches because nobody else will clean it, let alone not trash it in the first place? It's great that it works out for North County, but that is not the case in Malibu.

 

 

You are right about the litter that sucks, that should be enforced some how but not by the local residents doing sometimes illegal things.  Even I have to pick up trash in my community from people partying.  I get sick of cleaning up corona bottles and empty beer cases but still I do it.  That is part of where I live since it hard to enforce. 

 

Here is a quote from an actual resident though

 

I live on the beach. Next to me is a public beach access. I have no problem with that. I think everyone should have access to the ocean. I fight for it. But EVERY weekend the entire area is polluted with beer cans, fast food garbage, cigarette butts, old beach chairs...and pretty much everything you can imagine. I have no problem with beach access, but the huge amount of #$%$ left on the beach EVERY weekend is amazing. My wife and I go out and pick it up on Monday. If you go to the beach, don't be a pig. I guess 90% do a good job and have a great time. But 10% of you are horrible pigs. Really horrible pigs.

 

 

Thinking more of this.  Why are there no trash cans on this beach if it is public? Does the city not want people going there, if so why make it public? 

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its a good thing that in Massachusetts the beaches actually are private, our summer home is on a private beach that has a guarded gate preventing motorists from entering the driveway / parking area and you cannot see the beach from the road. There are no guards on the beach itself though.

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People do not own the ocean. I dont like how there are beaches that say private. A beach is different than someones yard and land because its connected to the ocean which no one owns.If I had a house on the ocean, I wouldnt care if people sat on the beach and enjoyed the water, as long as they act decent.

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They have my support. Having a lot of money shouldn't mean that rich people have a right to deny everyone else access to public property.

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Thinking more of this.  Why are there no trash cans on this beach if it is public? Does the city not want people going there, if so why make it public? 

And that's what it comes down to. If the local government doesn't do what its highest tax payers are asking, what choice they have at that point. I'm not supporting them doing anything illegal, but can you blame them for becoming creative to resolve the matter.

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Sounds like rich people thinking they are privileged over the rest of us, like usual.

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You are right about the litter that sucks, that should be enforced some how but not by the local residents doing sometimes illegal things.  Even I have to pick up trash in my community from people partying.  I get sick of cleaning up corona bottles and empty beer cases but still I do it.  That is part of where I live since it hard to enforce. 

 

Thinking more of this.  Why are there no trash cans on this beach if it is public? Does the city not want people going there, if so why make it public? 

 

 

I liked your post.

 

I am guessing cash-strapped California counties don't want to find the money for toilets and trash pick-up.

 

People who don't go to the beach won't want to pay for this.

 

I guess all you could do is charge a small fee to cover this cost.

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And that's what it comes down to. If the local government doesn't do what its highest tax payers are asking, what choice they have at that point. I'm not supporting them doing anything illegal, but can you blame them for becoming creative to resolve the matter.

Not sure why thinking so much about it, but I am seeing both sides.  Both sides are right and wrong.  Next time I am in Cali I will go see for myself :D.

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I guess all you could do is charge a small fee to cover this cost.

Put that way, it sounds like another tax on top of the other 15 jillion ways they tax us now.

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^ I doubt many would empty the toilets and pick up the trash for free.  ;)

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