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Well I'm sure you guys know about this, or have noticed it: https://www.google.co.uk/#safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=manage+adblockplus+whitelist&oq=manage+adblockplus+white&gs_l=hp.1.0.33i21.1844.10062.0.13134.26.21.1.4.5.0.300.2908.0j20j0j1.21.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.xwB4ti1pzoY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.d2k&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1280&bih=582

 

AdblockPlus  has now become a scam plug-in that is holding advertisers to ransom in order to make big profits. There used to be a setting in older versions of Adblock that allowed you to select whether you wanted to keep viewing 'unobtrusive' ads or not, but that setting has also now gone. Basically it seems if you throw enough money at the developers of Adblock they will show whatever advert you want.

 

I thought I was going nuts when I first saw Google ad-sense ads about a week ago. I haven't seen adverts on my home internet connection for over 10 years. I thought something screwy has gone on with my filter list. It turns out it had, although it wasn't my doing.

 

It seems like it's time for a new adblocking extension to step in where AdblockPlus has now firmly dropped the ball. (Preferably one that is open source and can't sell out and that maybe uses a similar set of filter lists.)

Is anyone aware of anything currently that can block Google ads?

Before anyone answers, let me get a few things out of the way. Firstly, I have always disabled Adblocking software on on the few sites I am sympathetic to. Google isn't one of these.

Second I know there are guys who vehemently support serving all web users adverts, whether they want to view them or not. I am certain you have your own well worked out rational for this, although if you told me this I would probably think you were slightly crazy - and since I pay a premium for my internet connection, I should be able to view, or not view whatever I wish. In any case, this post is not for you if you do feel like this. Please don't respond if this is what you want to say.

3rdly is there any way of manually editing the AdblockPlus white list, or is this now just officially a dead (or at least slowly dying) duck?

It sucks when something you have trusted for so long turns around and bites you in the butt. But sh t happens I guess.

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Are you sure the setting is gone? It still shows on my firefox with ABP 2.2.4.

 

There are several adblock plus clones (basically copy&paste of the code) around that were released in response when ABP added that option but I don't know if they can be trusted since copy&pasting somebody else's work is already pretty unethical to start with.

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Are you sure the setting is gone? It still shows on my firefox with ABP 2.2.4.

 

There are several adblock plus clones (basically copy&paste of the code) around that were released in response when ABP added that option but I don't know if they can be trusted since copy&pasting somebody else's work is already pretty unethical to start with.

Actually, Enhanced Protected Mode in the IE11 Preview makes for a slicker ABP alternative (at least for IE).  It even blocks ads that ABP won't. (ABP, for example, does NOT block ads in the "guest-default" layout - even in Firefox or Chrome - IE11 EPM heads them off at the pass.  It even blocks - by default - Neowin's connection to Twitter.  Finally, EPM actually has teeth.)

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Secure Gateways are your friend.

  1. No software to install
  2. Works on any device with a browser even Smart TV's
  3. Protects the entire network
  4. Central block lists
  5. VPN when your away from home

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Forget it. I just used a clone.

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Are you sure it's gone?

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Also:

 

About Adblock Plus

 

 

 

Adblock Plus is an open-source project addressing the problem of annoying and intrusive online advertising by putting users in control. The extension allows defining filters that determine what a website is permitted to load, as well as provide a way to collapse unwanted sections of a web page (element hiding). People who don't have the knowledge or the time to create their own filters can choose from over fifty existing subscriptions that have been prepared by members of the Adblock Plus community and are constantly being updated.

As far as I can see, the user is still in control.

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Perhaps?

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I just did this, still havent seen ads in a while now...

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Actually, Enhanced Protected Mode in the IE11 Preview makes for a slicker ABP alternative (at least for IE).  It even blocks ads that ABP won't. (ABP, for example, does NOT block ads in the "guest-default" layout - even in Firefox or Chrome - IE11 EPM heads them off at the pass.  It even blocks - by default - Neowin's connection to Twitter.  Finally, EPM actually has teeth.)

Just because it blocks some ads ABP doesn't block it still doesn't change the fact that ABP blocks far more ads since it's element blocking rather than simple URL blocking. If I wanted URL blocking I'd just install privoxy or any other ad-blocker from more than a decade ago.

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I just did this, still havent seen ads in a while now...

 

Wonder how long that option will remain, I went ahead and replaced ABP with a different ad blocker

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Actually, Enhanced Protected Mode in the IE11 Preview makes for a slicker ABP alternative (at least for IE).  It even blocks ads that ABP won't. (ABP, for example, does NOT block ads in the "guest-default" layout - even in Firefox or Chrome - IE11 EPM heads them off at the pass.  It even blocks - by default - Neowin's connection to Twitter.  Finally, EPM actually has teeth.)

 

Unless I missed something drastically different in IE11 (and I don't see any changes announced in the IE blog), EPM has absolutely nothing to do with blocking ads. EPM is a form of integrity known as "AppContainer", a level below "Low". I'm willing to bet what you're experiencing is being caused by something else such as TPLs. A big giveaway of this is your mention of blocking Twitter.

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while i knew about this, and option for you to turn it off, i thought this was a case by case thing and not being paid by anyone to add them to this "safe list" will dump and move on.

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NoScript will block Google Ads. But just like those above, I still have the option of allowing/disallowing no obtrusive ads on 2.2.4...

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NoScript will block Google Ads. But just like those above, I still have the option of allowing/disallowing no obtrusive ads on 2.2.4...

and on top of that, use html filtering add-on/extentions (or proxy filter) to remove the html codes like this:

<noscript><img src="insert transparent 1x1 gif image, for tracking purposes, here"></noscript>

and it would be perfect. :laugh:

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How is the a problem exactly? Ad Block Plus was never started with the express idea of being a way to block ads for the sake of getting free content. It was setup as a way to allow you to opt out of the worst ads that used to be very common on the web. Video ads that auto start playing, full screen pop ups and overs that required manual closing, etc...

 

This new program is a win win really. Ad Block plus can allow advertisers who clean up their ads to be unobtrusive to be white listed, while still allowing users to opt out of even this. It aids us in getting the end goal accomplished of unobtrusive ads for everyone.

 

If you want to just block any and all ads (which I understand the need for that due to tracking cookies and etc being a problem as well) then you just toggle the box and you're good.

 

Are you worried that the box will disappear? It isn't a major concern. Ad Block Plus is Open Source and you can access the code directly. If they removed the option someone would just fork the project code and add the option back.


Are you sure the setting is gone? It still shows on my firefox with ABP 2.2.4.

 

There are several adblock plus clones (basically copy&paste of the code) around that were released in response when ABP added that option but I don't know if they can be trusted since copy&pasting somebody else's work is already pretty unethical to start with.

Err what?

 

Open Source projects are expressly designed so they can be "forked"...

 

Which is basically copy and pasting the code so that someone else can improve or maintain it in a new way. This is a key feature of open source and isn't "unethical"...

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This "feature" has been around for awhile now.  I think google only just recently got added to the list and that's why it's news now.  It's the only thing I can think of that makes any sense since this feature is months old.

 

Why hasn't anyone created a fork called adblock minus?

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Err what?

 

Open Source projects are expressly designed so they can be "forked"...

 

Which is basically copy and pasting the code so that someone else can improve or maintain it in a new way. This is a key feature of open source and isn't "unethical"...

 

When it's a simple copy&paste of the code, released with similar name and with just a checkbox removed, therefore zero improvements or anything else actually justifying the fork, I doubt that anybody would agree that it was a nice thing to do.

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Wonder how long that option will remain, I went ahead and replaced ABP with a different ad blocker

That option has been there for months. It's only news now because of Google. 

 

Edit: Apparently, Ned beat me to it.

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When it's a simple copy&paste of the code, released with similar name and with just a checkbox removed, therefore zero improvements or anything else actually justifying the fork, I doubt that anybody would agree that it was a nice thing to do.

There is no rule stating that forkers have to make significant changes to the project they fork...

 

You should probably do a bit of reading on what forking is...

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I still have the option, but I do notice that it keeps re-enabling itself to allow certain ads.  Let's see how long it stays off this time.

 

My biggest reason for this is I hate the damn adverts on youtube.

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There is no rule stating that forkers have to make significant changes to the project they fork...

 

You should probably do a bit of reading on what forking is...

Are you saying that changing a single line of code brings such a big improvement to justify a whole project forking? No, it doesn't. Doing a simple copy&paste of the code, with only a checkbox removed, is just parasiting of other people's work without giving back anything to the community. Just because something is allowed it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

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Are you saying that changing a single line of code brings such a big improvement to justify a whole project forking? No, it doesn't. Doing a simple copy&paste of the code, with only a checkbox removed, is just parasiting of other people's work without giving back anything to the community. Just because something is allowed it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Why are you claiming that I'm invalid?

 

I can fork Ad Block Plus, or any open source project, and decide my reason is simply that I want to add my name to the About Dialog or something and that is perfectly valid. Will anyone use my fork? More than likely not, but that doesn't make my fork in any way invalid. It is always valid for anyone to fork open source code for whatever reason.

 

The Ad Block Plus team will have rules as to what can be merged back into their code base (or pushed up stream), but that doesn't impact my right to fork their code...

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Secure Gateways are your friend.

  • No software to install
  • Works on any device with a browser even Smart TV's
  • Protects the entire network
  • Central block lists
  • VPN when your away from home
Do you have more details on that? What do you use? Any tips or links to instructions? How do you incorporate block lists?

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