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#1 Showan

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 17:27

As I've ventured through various forums (gaming and non gaming sites), all I keep hearing is bashing of the XB1... "Anti-Consumer", "DRM", "Spy-Gate", insert paranoid biased rant, etc...

All the tech Software and Hardware, that I want is in the console that does cost $500. As I looked at the reveal (I loved every moment of it) and E3 (take my $$$ now please)... I was/am sold...

I did reserve both next gen consoles on Amazon and purchased day and date delivery for each... So let's clear that up before I go any further...

After E3 I wondered about the $400 investment I'm about to make over the $500 investment.
I plan on holding on to my $400 reservation just in case I'm surprised come Gamescon or TGS.

Is a graphics card upgrade and $100 worth the investment? I have 2x of the previous version in my home already. I do love some of the games for it, but also hate a lot about it as well

I bring my son to GameStop from time to time (right down the street from my house so why not, and some of the staff there are actually pretty cool. Shocking I know... But there are about 4 employees who just bash the XB1 and tell me to invest $400 instead of $500.

I ask them to give me a compelling argument on why should I... And they never can...
All I keep hearing is $100 and 50% more power. Sure I guess sweeter eye candy is a bragging point for some. But that is not a 10yr selling point for me. And they never can get beyond those 2 benefits.

There is a game on Steam called MAGICKA, a little cartoon looking game with a little wizard... Not a graphics intensive game, but one of the most enjoyable games out there (wish it were on consoles)...

I am not dogging the $400 console, by any means...

But nobody has yet justify to me on why to spend less money...
$500 is not a concern considering I know it's what I wanted, and knowing what my $500 is giving me in return...

I'm willing to pay $10 a year for a camera
I'm will ping to pay $40 for XB Live passes (never pay full price of $60, if you don't have to)
I'm willing to have tv,tv,tv, sports,sports,sports, skype, snap in, impulse triggers...
I can accept DDR3 memory and 32mb of ESRAM...
I can't wait to see what the cloud offers every year that goes by, and developers find new challengers for using it...
I love reputation system, as time goes on, I will no longer have to get away from the annoying gamers, they will up basically we'd themselves out...
By digital and can jump to any game instantly, in a blink, or watch "tv" while it's searching for a match for me, and then instantly snap back to my game, never changing the channel..."
Debating on forums such as this while playing a quick arcade game...

All of the above I mentioned, not even all of the features are worth $500 to me. And that's not mentioning the awesome games coming out for it... It's worth $500 to me when the company that is making it is investing $1 billion into it themselves...

Like I said, I am keeping my $400 reservation for now. As of right now, I see no justification in the $400 investment. But I always give the benefit of the doubt, instead of jumping the gun. I do have 2x of their current gen consoles in my house and don't regret it one bit... Let's hope my $400 is a jackpot as well


#2 Circaflex

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 17:34

AWESOME USE OF ALL CAPS IN YOUR TITLE

 

CANNOT TELL IF SERIOUS OR TROLL BUY WHAT YOU WANT



#3 Lord Method Man

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 17:37

I dunno guys, I mean Prometheus had gorgeous visuals, but storywise it fell pretty flat, and the characters were just mind-blowingly stupid.

 

Me? I think Ridley Scott needs to team up with some better writers if he wants to make more quality films in the future.



#4 greenwizard88

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 17:42

I'm confused. You want to know why the PS4 is better than the XBOne, but you want to ignore graphics quality and the price point? Is there really anything left? I mean, heck, if you're going to ignore graphics and price, you may as well as pick up a PS2.

 

Why not pick up a Wii U or an Apple TV instead of a PS3? At least that way if you stop paying for an xbox gold sub, at least you can continue watching Netflix or Amazon Prime.



#5 Neu B

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 17:42

...hmm, hmm, No sir, I don't like it!



#6 dead.cell

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:01

Dude, are you like copying and pasting your rants? I've literally seen you go on about the same exact thing in the comments and various parts of this forum saying the EXACT SAME THING each and every time.

 

We know where you stand in regards to the consoles. Buy what you like. Not sure why we should care, let alone tell you how to spend your dollar. That's up to you. Just remember that just as we're not going to tell you how to spend your dollar, don't sit and try to convince us how we should spend our money when it's obvious our opinions differ.

 

TL;DR: stahp.



#7 Knive Party

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:04

I have no idea WTH you are on about...learn to post coherently and try to make sense, otherwise, avoid posting on Neowin.



#8 Graimer

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:07

Just FYI, the console that costs $100 more is not the one with the 50% better GPU... 

 

And learn to behave...



#9 OP Showan

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:21

I'm confused. You want to know why the PS4 is better than the XBOne, but you want to ignore graphics quality and the price point? Is there really anything left? I mean, heck, if you're going to ignore graphics and price, you may as well as pick up a PS2.

 

Why not pick up a Wii U or an Apple TV instead of a PS3? At least that way if you stop paying for an xbox gold sub, at least you can continue watching Netflix or Amazon Prime.

 

I already have a Wii U in my household (my 8yr old got luck) and not worth it in its current state... There were 2system updates and the system is still slow (and thats just jumping through menus)... and no system selling game for it yet... It is still dependent on its legacy titles to hold it over...

 

I have 2x PS3's in my household, and I don't regret buying 2 of them... But I can't justify the $400 for the newer version... Like I said.... I am speaking from as of today...  Tomorrow all the way till launch may be nothing buy awesomeness...  But a new graphics card and $100 savings is not a decade long bragging point..


Dude, are you like copying and pasting your rants? I've literally seen you go on about the same exact thing in the comments and various parts of this forum saying the EXACT SAME THING each and every time.

 

We know where you stand in regards to the consoles. Buy what you like. Not sure why we should care, let alone tell you how to spend your dollar. That's up to you. Just remember that just as we're not going to tell you how to spend your dollar, don't sit and try to convince us how we should spend our money when it's obvious our opinions differ.

 

TL;DR: stahp.

Read the Title... what does $400 get me... A graphics boost isn't enough... nor is $100 difference... if you don't have an answer, don't chew me out over it...

I just want to know what its gets me as of right now...



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:36

I just want to know what its gets me as of right now...

 

Right now? Absolutely nothing.



#11 Boxster17

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:45

Why should we be doing research for you? If you don't care enough to look up the differences yourself then why should we?

 

In the end buy whatever is most appealing to you, I don't see why you need a forum of people to convince you otherwise.



#12 xendrome

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:53

In the end buy whatever is most appealing to you, I don't see why you need a forum of people to convince you otherwise.

 

I was going to say some, but I corrected myself... a lot of people are incapable of making decisions for themselves, that's why they need TV, Internet, Friends, etc. to do their research for them and make up their mind for them. Quite sad actually.



#13 webeagle12

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 18:54

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#14 OP Showan

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 19:21

The point is I know exactly what my $500 will get me...

I also know as of right now what $400 will get me...

I'd rather the $400 machine be priced at $500 and come with its very nice (don't wanna pay $200 for it) handheld...

 

 

Like I said, I still have $400 for a spot in line... and day and date delivery on it... and some games...

And the $500 is still the better investment... 



#15 KRazpopov

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 19:31

 I'd rather the $400 machine be priced at $500 and come with its very nice (don't wanna pay $200 for it) handheld...

 

 

So basically you're saying that you want the PS4 to be $300 instead of $400?