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When Florida lawmakers recently voted to ban all Internet cafes, they worded the bill so poorly that they effectively outlawed every computer in the state, according to a recent lawsuit.
 
In April Florida Governor Rick Scott approved a ban on slot machines and Internet cafes after a charity tied to Lt. Governor Jennifer Carroll was shut down on suspicion of being an Internet gambling front -- forcing Carroll, who had consulted with the charity, to resign.
 
Florida's 1,000 Internet cafes were shut down immediately, including Miami-Dade's Incredible Investments, LLC, a caf
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Florida passing insane legislation? Quelle surprise!

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Well, that's gonna cause NASA one or two issues... :p

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reminds me of the old florida jokes I used to read back in the late 1990's

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Wow, that is some vague wording. *facepalm*

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good sheeptizen must obey the LAW.

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Good -- will put a stop to the rampant poRn. :p

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The fact is most legislation isn't written by the lawmakers but by Legislative Assistants. The legislator tells them their position and they translate it into legalese, often badly. See Obamacare, or any number of other laws that trampled the Law of Unintended Consequences.

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What an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. "This one guy abused something, so let's shut down all of what is otherwise a valuable and useful service." ######?

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about as dumb as a law that is STILL ON THE BOOKS in Pennsylvania that makes it illegal to own a router...... a law that was created in pre-internet days when it was a gov network...

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What an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. "This one guy abused something, so let's shut down all of what is otherwise a valuable and useful service." ######?

 

I thought the same thing when I read it. I can't say it surprises me though. 

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What an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. "This one guy abused something, so let's shut down all of what is otherwise a valuable and useful service." ######?

 

It's an epidemic problem in the U.S. where laws are based off of shortsighted, knee-jerk reactions that are misguided by emotions rather than deep, insightful understanding of the problem.  These stupid laws do little to prevent crime, but do a whole lot more in punishing law-abiding citizens by stripping their rights or away.  

 

If you see a bad apple or two in the basket, don't throw out the whole basket, why not just pick out the bad ones and leave the good ones?

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They should do a re-count.  :rofl:

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...Ban gambling but still allow the lottery? hypocrites!

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Good thing I moved out of Miami in time. :p

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...Ban gambling but still allow the lottery? hypocrites!

Well of course, the lottery is state sponsored and the money goes to them. Not the case at the computer gambling places.

 

I did read the actual bill though and from what I read it's no where near as vague as these news articles make it sound. From what I understood you'd have to have an electronic device that allows you to put money or credits in, play a game of chance, and get money or credits out. I think the key is getting money or some kind of currency back. There are plenty of games you can pay for on your phone or computer, but how many spit money back out at you? I can see it potentially causing issues with something like Xbox Live or similar where you put money in to play, but even there you never get money back or even win MS points back. I think it's wording could be a little better, but I think it's still a bit of a sensationalist story, as always.

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I told my boss today that I couldn't do my job because it broke the law.

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...Ban gambling but still allow the lottery? hypocrites!

 

The lottery dumps a TON of money back into the Florida education system.

 

Though the Florida Lottery

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The lottery dumps a TON of money back into the Florida education system.

Don't know if this is true or not but heard that if you play the lottery (and don't win), you can actually claim 40% of your lottery costs back as a local tax return as you are effectively giving to charity (School system).

Anybody any idea whether you really can or not?

 

Edit: Never mind. Looked it up and you can actually claim the full amount as a gambling loss.

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This is why I oppose all knee-jerk legislation.

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This is why I oppose all knee-jerk legislation.

 

The issue was in the legal system in Florida House and Senate since 2012. The situation was causing 2 major issues. (1) Bleeding dry older retired folks on fixed incomes who were becoming addicted to the "gambling" bug and (2) Weekly, violent strong arm robberies at the locations because of the large amount of cash on hand. Just go on youtube and search for "Internet Cafe Robbery Florida".

The spirit of the law is to protect the citizens of the state in a few different ways.

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Florida passing insane legislation? Quelle surprise!

No different, better/worse than any other bloomin' US State or foreign country... (You folks across the pond have some pretty lame ass stupid legislation too ya know...) :laugh:

 

--signed, resident Floridian :rofl:

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This is obviously an attempt to attract neo-Luddites to Florida.

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Well, that's gonna cause NASA one or two issues... :p

Not to mention the heart attack the NSA's having I'm sure!  LOL

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ROFL!!  This post for the win!

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