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#16 +AJerman

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 19:42

...Ban gambling but still allow the lottery? hypocrites!

Well of course, the lottery is state sponsored and the money goes to them. Not the case at the computer gambling places.

 

I did read the actual bill though and from what I read it's no where near as vague as these news articles make it sound. From what I understood you'd have to have an electronic device that allows you to put money or credits in, play a game of chance, and get money or credits out. I think the key is getting money or some kind of currency back. There are plenty of games you can pay for on your phone or computer, but how many spit money back out at you? I can see it potentially causing issues with something like Xbox Live or similar where you put money in to play, but even there you never get money back or even win MS points back. I think it's wording could be a little better, but I think it's still a bit of a sensationalist story, as always.




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Posted 10 July 2013 - 19:46

I told my boss today that I couldn't do my job because it broke the law.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:04

...Ban gambling but still allow the lottery? hypocrites!

 

The lottery dumps a TON of money back into the Florida education system.

 

Though the Florida Lottery’s expenses and payouts vary from year to year, approximately 50 to 60 percent of its net revenue makes up the games’ prize pools, 30 to 40 percent is transferred to the Educational Enhancement Trust Fund, 6 percent is paid to retailers in the form of commissions, 2 percent is paid to the Lottery’s on-line and Scratch-Off ticket vendors, and the remaining 2 percent covers operational costs, including advertising.

 

 

What an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. "This one guy abused something, so let's shut down all of what is otherwise a valuable and useful service." Dafuq?

 

This was the same as gambling, old people were going to these "internet cafes", paying real money to play games online, like slot machines to earn credit/points that could be exchanges for prizes or gas cards. The games were a game of chance, not a game of skill. And the article isn't accurate.

 

The law that was passed actually states a game of chance/skill in return for various items/rewards

 

This is the actual bill text, they took out of context what they wanted for their law suit and used it. Read the whole section it is pretty clear : Here is a link also - http://www.myflorida...55&Session=2013

 

 

As used in this chapter, the term "slot machine or 
182 device" means any machine or device or system or network of 
183 devices is a slot machine or device within the provisions of 
184 this chapter if it is one that is adapted for use in such a way 
185 that, upon activation, which may be achieved by, but is not 
186 limited to, as a result of the insertion of any piece of money, 
187 coin, account number, code, or other object or information, such 
188 machine or device or system is directly or indirectly caused to 
189 operate or may be operated and if the user, whether by 
190 application of skill or by reason of any element of chance or of
191 any other outcome of such operation unpredictable by the user
may:
193 (a) Receive or become entitled to receive any piece of 
194 money, credit, allowance, or thing of value, or any check, slug, 
195 token, or memorandum, whether of value or otherwise, which may 
196 be exchanged for any money, credit, allowance, or thing of value 
197 or which may be given in trade; or
198 (b) Secure additional chances or rights to use such 
199 machine, apparatus, or device, even though the device or system
200 it may be available for free play or, in addition to any element 
201 of chance or unpredictable outcome of such operation, may also 
202 sell, deliver, or present some merchandise, indication of 
203 weight, entertainment, or other thing of value. The term "slot 
204 machine or device" includes, but is not limited to, devices 
205 regulated as slot machines pursuant to chapter 551.
 


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:10

 

The lottery dumps a TON of money back into the Florida education system.

Don't know if this is true or not but heard that if you play the lottery (and don't win), you can actually claim 40% of your lottery costs back as a local tax return as you are effectively giving to charity (School system).

Anybody any idea whether you really can or not?

 

Edit: Never mind. Looked it up and you can actually claim the full amount as a gambling loss.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:10

This is why I oppose all knee-jerk legislation.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:17

This is why I oppose all knee-jerk legislation.

 

The issue was in the legal system in Florida House and Senate since 2012. The situation was causing 2 major issues. (1) Bleeding dry older retired folks on fixed incomes who were becoming addicted to the "gambling" bug and (2) Weekly, violent strong arm robberies at the locations because of the large amount of cash on hand. Just go on youtube and search for "Internet Cafe Robbery Florida".

The spirit of the law is to protect the citizens of the state in a few different ways.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:20

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#23 ir0nw0lf

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:21

Florida passing insane legislation? Quelle surprise!

No different, better/worse than any other bloomin' US State or foreign country... (You folks across the pond have some pretty lame ass stupid legislation too ya know...) :laugh:

 

--signed, resident Floridian :rofl:



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:21

This is obviously an attempt to attract neo-Luddites to Florida.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 20:39

Well, that's gonna cause NASA one or two issues... :p

Not to mention the heart attack the NSA's having I'm sure!  LOL


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ROFL!!  This post for the win!



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:27

No different, better/worse than any other bloomin' US State or foreign country.

Well, Florida certainly has plenty of competition with other US states I'll grant you that - Texas is another front-runner. The problem here is that even were it not for the mistake the idea of banning all internet cafés is ridiculous, especially when it was simply a knee-jerk reaction. It's wrong to force thousands of businesses to close at a whim, especially when the scandal was related to government in the first place.



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:41

Bill Gate's reaction to this is priceless

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:06

Wait... they're banning Internet Cafes?  Lolwut.



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:35

So...no more high tech gadgets and computers for CSI: Miami then. :laugh:

 

Also if this law was passed in a hurry who's to say that there isn't more laws like this one that are full of legal holes? :rolleyes:



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:53

The issue was in the legal system in Florida House and Senate since 2012. The situation was causing 2 major issues. (1) Bleeding dry older retired folks on fixed incomes who were becoming addicted to the "gambling" bug and (2) Weekly, violent strong arm robberies at the locations because of the large amount of cash on hand. Just go on youtube and search for "Internet Cafe Robbery Florida".

The spirit of the law is to protect the citizens of the state in a few different ways.

 

Sometimes the worst things done in the history of mankind, were things done with the best of intentions...just a thought.


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It's too bad he didn't bother cutting out D.C. as well while he was at it...





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