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You managed to derail another thread that you started YET AGAIN.

What does that have to do with "no price drop"?

Why can you never stay on topic?

It wasn't him who started the framerate discussion...

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It wasn't him who started the framerate discussion...

I directed it at a person in context to price point. 

 

Also, Its good that BF4 runs 60fps. Shows frostbite can and will!

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Who's hosting?  PCs?  The publisher?  Dedicated PS4s?

 

The Xbox 360 and PS3 both used client hosted servers for most games, so that might not be terribly accurate.

 

Client hosted servers where someone is playing on the server is not a dedicated server. On a dedicated server nobody is playing on the server. It's dedicated to hosting games. It doesn't really matter if this dedicated server is a PS4 or PC.

 

The problem with XBox Live (and PS3) was not really the lag. Most of the time the lag was bearable. The problem was the host had an unfair and really really big advantage. When the host was bad or average it did not really matter. But when the host was a god player it made him like a god.

 

I know really quickly when i'm hosting the game on Halo. People can't kill me and all my head shots register like if i was playing an offline game. When i'm not hosting trying to headshot the host is like trying to win the Tour de france while not using any drug.

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why all indications are they're sellign out anyway and even out selling the PS4. why on earth would they chose to sell at a loss....

 

PS4 is outselling the Xbox One in all pre-order markets by large percentages, 

 

PS4 even has 3 games in the top pre-order list for this week when the console isn't even out, while the Xbox One has zero.

http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/

 

Also note that this is the US pre-orders which were predominately an Xbox base.

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PS4 is outselling the Xbox One in all pre-order markets by large percentages, 

 

PS4 even has 3 games in the top pre-order list for this week when the console isn't even out, while the Xbox One has zero.

http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/

 

Also note that this is the US pre-orders which were predominately an Xbox base.

Sauuuceee

 

Also one small websites stats is far from a valid representation of anything.

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PS4 is outselling the Xbox One in all pre-order markets by large percentages, 

Got any actual numbers on that console sales bit?  Unless you do you're both just talking imaginary numbers.

 

All my game preorders for the X1 were cancelled as I intend to buy digitally.  I doubt I'm the only one.  I'd be more likely to buy disc games on the PS4 just because of the way they downplay digital.

 

 

Client hosted servers where someone is playing on the server is not a dedicated server.

 

Quotin the wrong dude.  I am aware.

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Sauuuceee

 

Also one small websites stats is far from a valid representation of anything.

 

VGChartz isn't a small site and if you've never heard of them you really shouldn't be arguing about game or console volumes.

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heh, vgchartz. cute. 

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VGChartz isn't a small site and if you've never heard of them you really shouldn't be arguing about game or console volumes.

 

vgchartz is abotu as reliable as a meteorologists. which lately has been about as accurate as rolling a dice. 

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PS4 is outselling the Xbox One in all pre-order markets by large percentages, 

 

PS4 even has 3 games in the top pre-order list for this week when the console isn't even out, while the Xbox One has zero.

http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/

 

Also note that this is the US pre-orders which were predominately an Xbox base.

 

Who gives a crap.  As he said both systems are selling out, REGARDLESS of price (see...relevant to the topic)

Why you bother starting Xboxone threads then immediately switch to Sony Defense mode, is beyond me.

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Got any actual numbers on that console sales bit?  Unless you do you're both just talking imaginary numbers.

 

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

 

Best-Sellers on Amazon.

 

Who gives a crap.  As he said both systems are selling out, REGARDLESS of price (see...relevant to the topic)

Why you bother starting Xboxone threads then immediately switch to Sony Defense mode, is beyond me.

 

I merely post facts, It doesn't matter if your support Sony or Xbox I'd correct any post which I knew was incorrect.

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It gets worse.

 

I honestly don't care which console sells more. Me and my gaming mates have all decided to go X1 on release with some of us buying PS4's after a while. Its what suits you as a person, not what the general census wants.

 

With all the serious negative press around the X1 and positive press around Sony, if the PS4 smashed sales it honestly wouldn't suprise me at all. For me personally, the X1 experience is something which interests me more.

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Which is not actual numbers, doesn't account for the digital sale they and the X360 have going on, doesn't account for who had more launch consoles to sell before switching to the standard edition, changes every hour...

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http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

 

Best-Sellers on Amazon.

 

 

 

I merely post facts, It doesn't matter if your support Sony or Xbox I'd correct any post which I knew was incorrect.

 

 

Best sellers for the last 24 hours, NOT TOTAL

 

sheesh. 

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vgchartz is abotu as reliable as a meteorologists. which lately has been about as accurate as rolling a dice. 

Pretty accurate then :|

 

 

Who gives a crap.  As he said both systems are selling out, REGARDLESS of price (see...relevant to the topic)

Why you bother starting Xboxone threads then immediately switch to Sony Defense mode, is beyond me.

Well it depends upon numbers available also. If we believe rumours the Xbox is in short supply.

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I mean, I'm not getting the PS4 because it's cheaper. I'm getting it because I believe it to be better. So yeah, if they were the same price I'd get the PS4 still.

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Pretty accurate then :|

 

Well it depends upon numbers available also. If we believe rumours the Xbox is in short supply.

 

If you believe rumors you believe a lot of weird crap. 

 

after all the ridiculous rumors spread by the anti xbox crown, even after MS officially posted statements saying something else, you'd think people would stop believing rumors here. Especially negative xbox rumors, since I've never seen as much FUD and crap and lies created by the PS crowd before as during this launch. 

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Pretty accurate then :|

 

Well it depends upon numbers available also. If we believe rumours the Xbox is in short supply.

 

SO WHAT?  How is the "short supply" about xboxone pricing???

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If you believe rumors you believe a lot of weird crap. 

 

after all the ridiculous rumors spread by the anti xbox crown, even after MS officially posted statements saying something else, you'd think people would stop believing rumors here. Especially negative xbox rumors, since I've never seen as much FUD and crap and lies created by the PS crowd before as during this launch. 

 

What rumors?

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At this point, and depending on the deal they've made with AMD the price could be cut sooner than we're used to seeing before.   I think MS has made the right kind of hardware deals and supply deals and so the Xbox One could come down in price a bit by holiday 2014 at best.   A $50 after a year on the market should honestly be possible without having to cut anything out, one thing to remember is that they're expanding it to also run apps and I believe the Xbox Store will be the same model as the Windows and Windows Phone Store with self published apps at least going off of revshare.    That adds to what they can make back on top of the games and other content they sell (music, videos).   

 

I think we'll see aggressive price cuts in the first 4 years of it's life.  That or, and this is also a option, they make deals with the big cable/sat tv providers to offer the Xbox One as a set top box option.  Maybe as a second box in your home but for a subsidized price, something like $299 would be a big deal actually.    And no, as a second box option you don't need to already have a 2nd set top box because there are adaptors out already, iirc, that can be used/sold with it by the cable provider which would make it a true set top box and not just a pass through IR blaster.

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after all the ridiculous rumors spread by the anti xbox crown,

 

Seriously give it a rest. My god ...

 

Most people who criticized the One are actually fans of the XBox brand. I know i am, or was cause i'm planning to buy the PS4 as i already have a PVR and want a game console. I can buy a PS4 with 2 games for the price of a One. Done deal. I surely don't want to have a useless kinect lying behind my TV gathering dust cause i can't disconnect it and put it in a drawer.

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I'll also note the Amazon list has the PS4 Standard Edition being available for a month and the Xbox One standard edition available for a week.

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Pretty sure Nintendo said the same thing prior to release and then proceeded to do a wave of price cuts.

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SO WHAT?  How is the "short supply" about xboxone pricing???

 

Supply and Demand - law of economics.

 

How is it not about pricing?

 

Your best comment yet, ahhell, lol.

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i already have a PVR and want a game console.

Xbox One has no DVR functions and is a game console, so...yeahhhh

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