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#16 Enron

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:12

So, police illegally arrest a guy for quite legally filming them, his dog tries to protect its master, and they kill it without even giving the guy a chance to control it.

 

Not only that, but they also leave it to writhe in agony as it dies.

 

I hope they're fired.

 

Oh hold on, let me undo these handcuffs while your dog is attacking me. You go get your pet under control and come back afterwards, mmkay?




#17 adrynalyne

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:13

Fair play, the dog went for them.  Unarrest the guy?  Get real.

Right.

 

Uncuff guy, guy runs, or possibly draws a gun (they never searched him) and fires on them.

 

Uncuffing the guy would be pretty stupid.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:14

He shouldn't have been cuffed in the first place.  Filming police, OR playing music in your car, isn't an arrestable offence. They just didn't like that he was filming them.

 

The cops are wholly to blame for this entire incident.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:17

He shouldn't have been cuffed in the first place.  Filming police, OR playing music in your car, isn't an arrestable offence. They just didn't like that he was filming them.

If I was a police officer and someone positioned themselves to be cuffed, I would probably cuff them until I found out what was going on as well.  If you go to a police station and put your hands behind your back, they are probably going to cuff you as well, if nothing else to sort things out.

 

 Unless I missed part of the audio, I don't hear them telling him to put his hands behind his back beforehand.

 

They start walking towards him, he goes to his car.  I am aware that he was putting his dog away, but they don't know he wasn't getting a gun.

 

Better safe than dead.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:25

If I was a police officer and someone positioned themselves to be cuffed, I would probably cuff them until I found out what was going on as well.  If you go to a police station and put your hands behind your back, they are probably going to cuff you as well, if nothing else to sort things out.

 

 Unless I missed part of the audio, I don't hear them telling him to put his hands behind his back beforehand.

 

They start walking towards him, he goes to his car.  I am aware that he was putting his dog away, but they don't know he wasn't getting a gun.

 

Better safe than dead.

He immediately put his hands behind his back so they can't hit him with a resisting arrest charge. They commonly throw this charge against minorities for just questioning why they are being arrested.

 

The reality is there was no valid grounds for an arrest. If they hadn't done an unjustified arrest the dog wouldn't be dead. This is what everyone is upset about.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:27

He immediately put his hands behind his back so they can't hit him with a resisting arrest charge. They commonly throw this charge against minorities for just questioning why they are being arrested.

 

The reality is there was no valid grounds for an arrest. If they hadn't done an unjustified arrest the dog wouldn't be dead. This is what everyone is upset about.

 

 

It amazes me  how much race gets thrown around on Neowin.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:27

The cop fired a warning shot right? Yeah, didn't work. This breed of dog is absolutely vicious! It had to be shot. But yeah, the cop should have at least shot it in the head or something so it would have died sooner.

 

This breed seriously should NOT be allowed as a pet. It is just too unpredictable and lethal when it attacks.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:30

The cop fired a warning shot right? Yeah, didn't work. This breed of dog is absolutely vicious! It had to be shot. But yeah, the cop should have at least shot it in the head or something so it would have died sooner.

 

This breed seriously should NOT be allowed as a pet. It is just too unpredictable and lethal when it attacks.

 

We will have to agree to disagree.

 

Any breed can be vicious and unpredictable.

 

I've owned rotts.  They are not unpredictable.  Mess with their owners, the results are actually pretty predictable.  They will move to protect.

 

Owner had his windows down, and if he didn't know the dog would jump out in this situation, then he is an idiot.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:32

It amazes me  how much race gets thrown around on Neowin.

:huh: I'm not throwing around a race card, but OK.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:39

The comments on this thread are the DUMBEST BS comments I have ever seen on Neowin. The police acted unprofessional. Did you people even watch the video? Anyone who says that uncuffing him was not the right thing to do for him to safely secure that dog is an absolute moron. If you say that with a straight face, it means you didn't watch anything of that video but the part where the dog was shot. How do we know this? The guy put the dog up and walked to the police so they could arrest him. The man didn't run. He didn't fight back. NOTHING. He put the dog up because he knew he was being arrested. When he tried to stop the dog, the police wouldn't let him. This is the polices fault and they should be sued. The man was peaceful every moment of his arrest and you claim he would grab a gun or run. You are being racist if you think that. He literally walked to the police so they could arrest him. Anyone who disagrees either didn't watch the video at all or is racist. This video really ****ed me off. Police that do something this unprofessional **** me off. The man was no threat to them and all they had to do was let him put the dog back in the car where he put it originally so they could arrest him. But no, the dog had to die because the police are to stupid for that or just wanted an excuse to kill it. That breed of dog is not vicious in any way unless it was trained to be. Fun fact, you can't walk this breed of dog if its been trained to be vicious. If you had watched the video, you'd notice the part where the man is in public walking the dog. The same dog that backed up when the owner told him to, only to have the owner swung around away from the dog so the police could shoot it. Why did the dog jump out of the car? The police were "handling" its owner. Any dog that has any loyalty to its owner reacts this way. He didn't jump at the police until the police went after it. A warning shot would have made the dog run. The only way it wouldn't have is if the dog was trained to be around firearms. Are you people really so retarded to think the police did nothing wrong? This entire situation was wrongly handled by the police and I hope the get their asses sued from under them. You don't shoot somebodies pet after the owner is clearly capable of calming it down and controlling it, you know, like he was doing just before the police swung him around against his will for trying to save his dog from being shot. This video shows the perversion of cops and quite frankly the lack of intelligence and a bit of racism from many members of Neowin. The dog wasn't violent and could have been controlled. And people say Americans are blood thirsty and all you Europeans claiming this dog should be put down and more blood thirsty than any American I have ever talked to. Scared of a dog because of ignorance. So much so that you think the right thing to do is put it down and not let the owner keep it calm. ######ing morons...



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:40

###### the story.  Dog attacked. End of!



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:41

The comments on this thread are the DUMBEST BS comments I have ever seen on Neowin. The police acted unprofessional. Did you people even watch the video? Anyone who says that uncuffing him was not the right thing to do for him to safely secure that dog is an absolute moron. If you say that with a straight face, it means you didn't watch anything of that video but the part where the dog was shot. How do we know this? The guy put the dog up and walked to the police so they could arrest him. The man didn't run. He didn't fight back. NOTHING. He put the dog up because he knew he was being arrested. When he tried to stop the dog, the police wouldn't let him. This is the polices fault and they should be sued. The man was peaceful every moment of his arrest and you claim he would grab a gun or run. You are being racist if you think that. He literally walked to the police so they could arrest him. Anyone who disagrees either didn't watch the video at all or is racist. This video really ****ed me off. Police that do something this unprofessional **** me off. The man was no threat to them and all they had to do was let him put the dog back in the car where he put it originally so they could arrest him. But no, the dog had to die because the police are to stupid for that or just wanted an excuse to kill it. That breed of dog is not vicious in any way unless it was trained to be. Fun fact, you can't walk this breed of dog if its been trained to be vicious. If you had watched the video, you'd notice the part where the man is in public walking the dog. The same dog that backed up when the owner told him to, only to have the owner swung around away from the dog so the police could shoot it. Why did the dog jump out of the car? The police were "handling" its owner. Any dog that has any loyalty to its owner reacts this way. He didn't jump at the police until the police went after it. A warning shot would have made the dog run. The only way it wouldn't have is if the dog was trained to be around firearms. Are you people really so retarded to think the police did nothing wrong? This entire situation was wrongly handled by the police and I hope the get their asses sued from under them. You don't shoot somebodies pet after the owner is clearly capable of calming it down and controlling it, you know, like he was doing just before the police swung him around against his will for trying to save his dog from being shot.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:43

If you say that with a straight face, it means you didn't watch anything of that video but the part where the dog was shot.

 

Oh shut your ranting pipe hole - calling people names who simply disagree with your long winded crap.  Give it a rest, it must wear you out spouting so hard.

 

The dog is dangerous.  You don't unarrest someone to deal with a dangerous dog.  Not sure what world you live in, but it's a lovely fantasy!



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:49

Oh shut your ranting pipe hole - calling people names who simply disagree with your long winded crap.  Give it a rest, it must wear you out spouting so hard.

 

The dog is dangerous.  You don't unarrest someone to deal with a dangerous dog.  Not sure what world you live in, but it's a lovely fantasy!

 

Fantasy? What would the British Police do in a situation like this?

 

Call in armed Police? /s



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 19:52

Oh shut your ranting pipe hole - calling people names who simply disagree with your long winded crap.  Give it a rest, it must wear you out spouting so hard.

 

The dog is dangerous.  You don't unarrest someone to deal with a dangerous dog.  Not sure what world you live in, but it's a lovely fantasy!

 

 

Too many Neowinians with bleeding hearts here ignore that:

 

The guy was looking to mess with the police, he said it himself in interviews.

He surrendered himself without explanation.

He hadn't been searched yet.

He could have pulled a gun from his car.  Therefore, no effing way they would uncuff until he was searched.  The dog jumped out before that happened.

It was a crime scene, and no, passerbys are not allowed to potentially interfere.  We don't know the whole story and he may have been a potential suspect for loitering, loud music, and (whether people agree or not) had what is considered a dangerous dog on a leash, a little dog leash that the dog could have broken free from anyway.

The dog lunged to bite the officer, it was not without provocation.  The dog could have had diseases.

The owner knowingly left his windows down, which would allow the dog to jump out.  If he didn't know that, he is an idiot and just as much at fault as the officer who pulled the trigger.