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#16 techbeck


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 23:56

Nope, I accept that Google, Apple, and Facebook did it as well, just pointing out that it's funny how so many Neowinians were ready to accept Google's guilt but don't seem ready to accept Microsoft's on the same evidence. The point is, they are all doing it, they all shouldn't be, and it's time for people to point a finger at the industry as a whole rather than just at Google (though given that hating Google is the default at Neowin it probably won't happen)

Always going to be like this...especially since Neowin is a Windows site and there are more Windows fans than anything else. Being a fan isnt a bad thing...its how blinded and one sided some fans are and how they think. I use a combo of MS and Google products. If anything at Apple was of use to me, I would use something from them as well. I do work on Apple products everyday at work tho.

My advice....ignore the ones with the horse blinders on and dont let it bother you. Competition is a good thing and yes, chances are most companies are doing the exact same thing. Lots here cannot or do not want to see this.

#17 funkydude



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 20:41

Time for some facts:


In short, when governments seek information from Microsoft relating to customers, we strive to be principled, limited in what we disclose, and committed to transparency. Put together, all of this adds up to the following across all of our software and services:

  • Microsoft does not provide any government with direct and unfettered access to our customer’s data. Microsoft only pulls and then provides the specific data mandated by the relevant legal demand.
  • If a government wants customer data – including for national security purposes – it needs to follow applicable legal process, meaning it must serve us with a court order for content or subpoena for account information.
  • We only respond to requests for specific accounts and identifiers. There is no blanket or indiscriminate access to Microsoft’s customer data. The aggregate data we have been able to publish shows clearly that only a tiny fraction – fractions of a percent – of our customers have ever been subject to a government demand related to criminal law or national security.
  • All of these requests are explicitly reviewed by Microsoft’s compliance team, who ensure the request are valid, reject those that are not, and make sure we only provide the data specified in the order. While we are obligated to comply, we continue to manage the compliance process by keeping track of the orders received, ensuring they are valid, and disclosing only the data covered by the order.





#18 +Brandon Live

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 20:49

Super misleading article (and post).


The Guardian buried the line about how they only share data for individuals named by legal warrants. Shameful reporting, obviously meant to mislead.