Deviate_X Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Unless he had the gun drawn and pointed at Trayvon it isn't justification for knocking someone to the ground and then repeatedly bashing their head into the concrete. With the benefit of hindsight, it would have been exactly the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 http://news.yahoo.com/photos/zimmerman-not-guilty-newspapers-react-to-verdict-1373817001-slideshow/ this similar to O.J. Simpson who found not guilty on the newspaper on October 3, 1995. Ebay has collect of old newspaper about Simpon found not guilty in 1995: http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=O+J+SIMPSON+NOT+GUILTY+COMPLETE+L+TIMES+NEWSPAPER+ other link: http://abovethelaw.com/2013/07/will-george-zimmerman-join-o-j-simpson-in-the-hunt-for-real-killers/ I was like what? I knew this similar to O.J. Simpson too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Where was it ever established that Zimmerman was a racist? The information is out there, from his history in neighbourhood watch to his treatment of co-workers, etc. You also have to consider that most people don't spend their free time reporting black suspects to the police. Do I have proof that he's a racist? No, just like you don't have proof that he isn't. But sometimes you've just got to call a spade a spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The information is out there, from his history in neighbourhood watch to his treatment of co-workers, etc. You also have to consider that most people don't spend their free time reporting black suspects to the police. Do I have proof that he's a racist? No, just like you don't have proof that he isn't. But sometimes you've just got to call a spade a spade. Most people don't spend their free time... Doing what? Do you not understand what a neighborhood watch is? On top of that, it was the dispatcher that was interested in Martin's color, not Zimmerman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raze Subscriber² Posted July 14, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted July 14, 2013 1. spade A derogatory term for an African American, more commonly used in the post-Civil War era than today. "No you can't sit with me, you damn spade." http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spade&defid=15987 http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/call-a-spade-a-spade.html Good job! Please ignore this post, after reading and thinking about it, I realized it served no purpose other than being lame and way off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 O.J. Simpon killed 2 white persons. George Zimmerman killed one 17 years old black boy. can you see that one too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Most people don't spend their free time... Doing what? Do you not understand what a neighborhood watch is? You have deliberately taken my comment out of context. On top of that, it was the dispatcher that was interested in Martin's color, not Zimmerman. That isn't relevant to this discussion. Zimmerman had a history of reporting black suspects to the police and had complaints made against him for his aggressive tactics, which directly correlates with the Trayvon Martin incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 http://ph.news.yahoo.com/jury-spoken-killing-black-teen-obama-191005532.html this news talks about racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 i wonder how many of those blacks got away with it?In Detroit about 92% since the DPD's recent case closure rate is about 8%. Their crime lab was closed for incompetence years ago, the PD response time averages 58 minutes, and the homicide rate is 10x the national average at >48 / 100,000 - about the same as Ivory Coast in W. Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The information is out there, from his history in neighbourhood watch to his treatment of co-workers, etc. You also have to consider that most people don't spend their free time reporting black suspects to the police. Do I have proof that he's a racist? No, just like you don't have proof that he isn't. But sometimes you've just got to call a spade a spade. Might want to watch this video, it details Trayvon and Zimmerman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc&feature=youtu.be xendrome and trag3dy 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Saw this on 4Chan. Made me laugh. 1373826737004.png I found a recount of another similar story recorded on Vocaroo but it has 2 uses of the N-word so I can't post it. completely awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 You have deliberately taken my comment out of context. That isn't relevant to this discussion. Zimmerman had a history of reporting black suspects to the police and had complaints made against him for his aggressive tactics, which directly correlates with the Trayvon Martin incident. Tews, KingCracker, trag3dy and 6 others 9 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeRat Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 That isn't relevant to this discussion. Zimmerman had a history of reporting black suspects to the police and had complaints made against him for his aggressive tactics, which directly correlates with the Trayvon Martin incident. I suggest you read this story from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 The neighborhood that Zimmerman lived in had numerous break-ins that were committed by young black men. Why do so many scream that he was profiling? Should he have been looking for white women instead? George Zimmerman has black roots. Is he racist against himself? KingCracker, Tews, adrynalyne and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCKX Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The kid was just on his way home doin' Skittles. Why did it have to be tha most innocent playa on tha block, oh Lord? He was no hater, had nuthin' but love for family and all dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I suggest you read this story from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 The neighborhood that Zimmerman lived in had numerous break-ins that were committed by young black men. Why do so many scream that he was profiling? Should he have been looking for white women instead? George Zimmerman has black roots. Is he racist against himself? what bugs me isn't whether or not it was wrong for Zimmerman to profile.. it was "why is profiling wrong to begin with?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The kid was just on his way home doin' Skittles. Why did it have to be tha most innocent playa on tha block, oh Lord? He was no hater, had nuthin' but love for family and all dat. Looks like hes holding a s&w sw9ve. Cheap gun with a crappy trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 That isn't relevant to this discussion. Zimmerman had a history of reporting black suspects to the police and had complaints made against him for his aggressive tactics, which directly correlates with the Trayvon Martin incident. All that history of reporting, yet no altercations or guns fired before. Is there any evidence of people filing complaints against him for it? Must be racist, and decided to pick Martin to be his first victim despite all the prior profiling. Seriously though, if he had a vendetta against blacks, why did he wait until now to kill a black teenager, when he had all sorts of chances in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Congratulations Mr. Zimmerman. This one didn't get away. I can accept the jury's decision from a legal standpoint but there are a lot of concerns raised by this verdict. This verdict seems to validate that a person can target another person, start a confrontation by following that second person that is harming no one and not committing any criminal activity at the time, get into a fight, pull a gun an shoot them, claim self-defense and that's that. Of course with better physical evidence or better eyewitness testimony than in this case it might not always be an easy proposition to claim self-defense, but the bar seems to be incredibly low now when on person can just walk away with minor injuries and the other person ends up dead. I take it you have only watched ABC and NBC for coverage about this particular trial, because if you had watched the actual trial you would see that almost everything you just stated was incorrect and misinterpreted by the media. I wont debate this, but feel free to look at the trial evidence or other news outlets and you will see how wrong your statement truly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 All that history of reporting, yet no altercations or guns fired before. Is there any evidence of people filing complaints against him for it? Must be racist, and decided to pick Martin to be his first victim despite all the prior profiling. Seriously though, if he had a vendetta against blacks, why did he wait until now to kill a black teenager, when he had all sorts of chances in the past? If he had a vendetta against blacks he wouldn't have given his house keys to a black woman, nor would he helped teach black kids, nor would he have started a business with a black man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I don't buy it. The police officers told him not to follow the kid but yet he did and he killed him as a result. The kid was on his way home from the store carrying ice tea. I don't buy self defense for a minute. Incorrect information once again, police officers never told him not to follow, a phone operator did. Phone operators are not the law, and cannot tell you what you can or cannot do. So many mis-informed people in this thread, you guys really need to find other news sources because ABC and NBC and the likes have truly messed this one up. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If he had a vendetta against blacks he wouldn't have given his house keys to a black woman, nor would he helped teach black kids, nor would he have started a business with a black man. Not to mention that there was a black intern working on the defense team who made it clear if she felt he was racist, she wouldn't have stuck around. I feel bad for her really. Between the news media and people like Al Sharpton, she will be a pariah amongst the black community. How is that right? trag3dy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timster Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 it's unfortunate not all black-on-black crimes are met with as much vigor and pleads of mob outrage as has been displayed by the usual suspects (Sharpton, etc) with this case. There's a reason for that. With black-on-black crime, the race card can't be played. If Trayvon had bounced Zimmermans head a few more times, a little harder, insetad of walking away and getting shot in the back... i wonder if he would have escaped jail... of course not. that's murder, not self-defense KingCracker 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeRat Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 what bugs me isn't whether or not it was wrong for Zimmerman to profile.. it was "why is profiling wrong to begin with?" Exactly! If the break-ins had been committed by white, Asian, or Hispanic teens, I would fully understand all of the accusations of racism against Zimmerman in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCKX Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 There's a reason for that. With black-on-black crime, the race card can't be played. of course not. that's murder, not self-defense Isn't the other guy of spanish descent (half peruvian)? Why are they selling it as regular 'merican white dude, it looks good on TV? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timster Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Isn't the other guy of spanish descent (half peruvian)? Why are they selling it as regular 'merican white dude, it looks good on TV? :) I heard him called a Mexican, mixed-race, white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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