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#31 Enron

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:22

MSNBC makes me giggle. If you intent to kill, you shoot one time? If anything, i'm surprised by the restraint Zimmerman had to shoot ONE time while being pounded by Trayvon for close to a minute. If he did intent to kill, he got damn lucky the one bullet and that little gun did the job.

 

 Well at that close of a range, I'd think that gun would do the job.




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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:23

I can I know where to go if I want to play cop and kill someone. Zimmermann was looking for trouble and when he was losing the fight he use the gun. He should have at least got manslaughter for it.

Everyone should be afraid of this because you just need no witness to get away for killing someone.

 

Give it up. You people lost.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:26

By Zimmerman's account which was overstated. I'm a pretty big man, had I been Martin and slammed someone's head into concrete like he described, I'd have been the one on trail.


Maybe the concrete is softer in Florida. The point is violence leads to violence.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:28

Stay inside for the next few weeks. There's going to be some rioting :|



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:32

Unless you have some sort of clinical disorder that forces you against your will to start bashing their head into concrete you should be okay.

 

Should be okay? See, that's the problem. Why should I have to defer to a complete stranger that's following me to decide whether I live or die?


Maybe the concrete is softer in Florida. The point is violence leads to violence.

 

Chasing someone with a gun is indeed pretty violent.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:35

Stay inside for the next few weeks. There's going to be some rioting :|

 

I'm not going to live my life in fear of race rioting caused by the media and progressive opinion leaders including the president himself who felt the need to weigh in on the matter. I really hope nothing comes of it though, or it would just underscore a point.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:35

Chasing someone with a gun is indeed pretty violent.

Was the gun exposed and aimed at Trayvon during the "chase" ?



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:38

Give it up. You people lost.

 

Trayvon Martin and his family are the one's that lost here. 



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:43

Trayvon Martin and his family are the one's that lost here. 

 

While the loss of life was tragic and I'm sure his family feels devastated right now, the jury has spoken and even so, Zimmerman has to live with it for the rest of his life. It's not like the guy was celebrating what he did. You also have all the hateful people who want to "take things into their own hands" and hurt/kill Zimmerman. How is that any better than what they've accusing Zimmerman of doing?



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:52

Give it up. You people lost.

 

What is this some kind of sports event?



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:52

Was the gun exposed and aimed at Trayvon during the "chase" ?

 

A violent action has nothing to do with the victim seeing the instrument of their destruction. For instance, poisoning is obviously a violent act but primary motivation for that method killing is to conceal the violence to avoid detection by both the victim and authorities. 



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:53

After perusing the reactions on Twitter, forums, and comments on news articles, it's amazing to me how many people are passing judgment on Zimmerman because they assume they know what's going on instead of looking objectively at the evidence that was submitted.  The prosecution failed to show that Zimmerman was guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of 2nd degree murder or manslaughter. The goal of the jury isn't to make a political statement, it's not to use someone as a scapegoat to correct a perceived injustice, it's to look at the evidence that was submitted in the courtroom during the trial and reach a conclusion based upon the evidence that was submitted.  Perhaps Zimmerman really was guilty.  If so, don't blame the jury, blame the prosecution for failing to submit enough evidence to convict.  Remember, there was one black woman on the jury, and she went along with the acquittal as well.  I've read in-depth legal analyses on this topic (I believe one or two of them was posted in this forum) that analyzed the evidence in court from a legal perspective, and the consensus was that the prosecution didn't have enough evidence - they did such a poor job, they even had some of their witnesses being highly effective for the defense! 

 

I sure hope people with darker skin tones don't get the impression from this case that they are more unsafe - while I come from the Caucasian race, I have several friends who are of a darker skin tone, and I care for all my friends exactly the same - what color they are doesn't even register mentally, when it comes to me interacting with them.  I hope at one point in the future, that mindset will be common, and in cases like these, the skin color of the various parties involved won't even register.  I highly doubt that will be the case, at least in the short term, because there are enough influential people out there today who like dividing people by race (happens on *both* sides) because they profit in one way or another by the division, whether it's publicity, or advancing their political agenda, or wanting to exert control over people.  It's really tragic.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:56

Well at that close of a range, I'd think that gun would do the job.

A 9mm or lighter powered round is by no means a one-shot killer unless you luck out and hit a vital spot dead center, like in this case the heart. This is tough in a fight because of adrenaline etc. reducing your accuracy and these rounds not having a significant hydrostatic shock effect to cause damage away from the narrow wound channel.

That's why cops & CPL holders are usually trained to fire 2-3 times (double-tap, triple-tap) so yes, Zimmerman exercised restraint. OTOH, those of us who carry a .357 SIG, FN 5.7mm, .40, .45 or 10mm can do with 1 shot - they're flat out devastating.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:07

I hate how people are reacting. The system in the US states you have to prove their was no doubt that he killed him in cold blood and not self defense. there was no real proof that he did not defend himself. The jury could have thought that he shouldn't of killed him but the prosecution did not prove without a doubt he killed him in cold blood.

 

This shows how many people do not know how the system in the US works.

 

Now a civil trial Zimmerman has no chance of winning.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:09

While the loss of life was tragic and I'm sure his family feels devastated right now, the jury has spoken and even so, Zimmerman has to live with it for the rest of his life. It's not like the guy was celebrating what he did. You also have all the hateful people who want to "take things into their own hands" and hurt/kill Zimmerman. How is that any better than what they've accusing Zimmerman of doing?

 

Well he kind of is celebrating in it. Had he just minded his own businesses that night, he, like Trayvon Martin would still be nameless no ones. Zimmerman is now a super star in the right wing world with more money and fame than he'd would have ever known. Had he known that he could shoot a teenager that wasn't doing anything up until the time he started following him, heck, he may have decided to follow someone and shoot them years ago. 





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