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#31 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 23:30

This seems like a no win situation for the organization. Everyone is saying they are discriminating against obese kids. They have health standards for a reason. That is like arguing that an amusment park is discriminiting against an overly obese person when they tell them they can go on a ride. This particular camp is not a joke. A child who is overly obese could actually die out there attempting to do what the more fit kids are doing. So it is a no win situation. Face a lawsuit from when someone dies or put standards in place to save lives and have the ignorant media blast them for it.




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Posted 16 July 2013 - 23:32

I was a big kid and was able to do outdoor education, which is basically Boy Scouts with hiking and and wall climbing via rope activities, just fine, with no issue... .... but then again I dont think I'm morbidly obese either.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 00:23

If the Boy Scouts are so 'cool', why don't they have a program to help the obese kids lose weight ... ? ;)



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 00:26

If the Boy Scouts are so 'cool', why don't they have a program to help the obese kids lose weight ... ? ;)

They do. They teach you about healthly diets and exercise programs. However, most troops gather once a week and have no authority on a childs personal life outside of the organization. You questino is like asking why are there obese kids even though gym is a required class at most elementary schools.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 00:29

Overly obese, ey? Is there such a thing as overly obese? What's the line between regular obese and overly obese?

 

 

Exposing obese people to sudden amounts of exercise is dangerous. The first kid who collapses will have his parents suing the scouts. This might be more about liability than trying to exclude kids.

 

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Overweight - BMI 25-30

Obese - BMI 30-39

Overbese - BMI 40-49

Globese - BMI 50+



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 00:34

The boy scouts are surely sending a wrong message. the gay scouts issue truly divided the scouts. Now this. being a scout doesn't seem as good as it used to be.



#37 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 00:43

The boy scouts are surely sending a wrong message. the gay scouts issue truly divided the scouts. Now this. being a scout doesn't seem as good as it used to be.

So the message they are suppose to be sending is safety doesn't matter, just making sure everyone feels special and healthy even when they are not? Sorry, but if you are really going to knock an organization for doing something for the good of their members health, something is severely wrong with you.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:46

To be fair, the obese probably think that a Jamboree is a kind of dessert.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 15:10

^ Did someone say, cherries jubilee ?!

 

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 15:18

Ah, making fun of people who are above the "normal" weight expectations. The last bigotry accepted around the world.

 

Can't make fun of black people, white people, gay people, transgender people etc etc. But fat people? THE GATES ARE OPEN FELLAS. I don't even know why I comment in these types of threads anymore. Oh well, I'm sure there will be some real winner responses to follow.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 15:29

When will people realize that BMI is complete ######.

It's a ###### poor way of determining body fat.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 15:30

^ You forgot blondes.



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 00:40

Ah, making fun of people who are above the "normal" weight expectations. The last bigotry accepted around the world.

 

Can't make fun of black people, white people, gay people, transgender people etc etc. But fat people? THE GATES ARE OPEN FELLAS. I don't even know why I comment in these types of threads anymore. Oh well, I'm sure there will be some real winner responses to follow.

 

I'm not saying that the obese are deserving of ridicule, but the above is not a fair comparison.



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:33

I'm not saying that the obese are deserving of ridicule, but the above is not a fair comparison.

But that's exactly why it is a fair comparison. Because it is acceptable to ridicule and make fun of and demean overweight people. But it's not (though that's subjective depending on who you are talking to of course) alright to make fun of someone because of race or sexual orientation etc.

 

No one bats an eye at jokes about "those fatties", right?



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:54

The Boy Scouts of America’s new fitness standards for participating in the organization’s annual Jamboree are so rigorous they would not just exclude chubby tenderfoots — they would even bar many NFL players.


Absurd... Everyone knows that all NFL players are the epitome of American health...

 

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The Mayo [Clinic] data showed that 82 percent of NFL players under age 50 had abnormal narrowing and blockages in arteries, compared to the general population of the same age. This finding suggests that the former athletes face increased risk of experiencing high blood pressure, heart attack or stroke.

 

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