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#211 ZakO

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 18:27

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500
 

Linux - 476
Windows - 3

All Top 10 places are Linux based.

 

A supercomputer is usually headless worker machine and requires specialized changes to the operating system... obviously they're going to be running an OS/kernel that can be recompiled with certain optimizations. What's your point? 




#212 OP Growled

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:05

What's your point? 

This is a Linux vs Windows thread. :D



#213 Max Norris

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:20

This is a Linux vs Windows thread. :D

By your own first post, it's a Linux vs Windows on a consumer desktop thread... being on a phone or supercomputer really doesn't have anything to do with it, it's an entirely different application of the software running on different hardware and an entirely different set of needs being served. Just because a supercomputer might be running Windows HPC doesn't mean it'd make a great desktop OS either.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:38


f you consider NetApplications' data set, then Linux owns only about 1 percent of the desktop OS market and Windows has almost 92 percent. But if you consider all computing platforms, including mobile, than Windows has only 20 percent and Linux has 42 percent - and that would be in the form of Google's Android alone.

 

http://www.tomshardw...-ios,20220.html



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:52

http://www.tomshardw...-ios,20220.html

Again, different hardware and different application of the software, never mind it's the Linux kernel, you're not running KDE on your phone and I can't automagically run Android software on my Linux desktop, a virtual machine of some sort is still required. You got the unofficial x86 port of Android of course, but you're still locked into the Android desktop, you can't bring over Linux software and go on your merry way. It's not the same thing.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 20:05

http://www.pcworld.c...-windows-8.html

 


Both Microsoft and Canonical have received considerable flak for the default user interfaces in their respective OSs. In Microsoft's case, of course, it's the Modern UI, formerly known as Metro; in Canonical's case, it's Unity. Both are designed with touchscreens in mind, and borrow heavily from the mobile world.

 

By removing the Start button and overhauling the way users interact with the operating system, Windows 8's Modern interface poses a considerable challenge for users, who face a significant learning curve.

 

Unity, on the other hand, became a default part of Ubuntu back in April 2011 with Ubuntu 11.04 “Natty Narwhal.” It has definitely undergone growing pains, but more than a year has passed, and Canonical has revised the interface accordingly. Although it still has numerous critics, most people concede that it has matured and improved. Some observers, in fact, have even suggested that it may feel more familiar to many longtime Windows users than does Windows 8.



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 20:33

I'm probably in the minority but I (mostly) like where Unity's going, second favorite behind KDE. Like it much better over that train wreck that is Gnome 3, makes Win 8 look good. (And yea, that's opinion.) Big question mark about the display server though.

But that said, meh, it's a non-issue for both. Both are different than what people were used to but both are also stupidly easy to pick up, I'd give it to Windows 8 there though as once you spend 10 seconds to see that little intro, you still got same software, same desktop, etc as you had before, just a different set of menus.. 10 seconds to customize it and you'd have a desktop with zero learning curve while the clueless new Unity user is still trying in vain to move the taskbar to the bottom or navigate (or even customize) the Unity menu.. the dash and hidden menus alone can be confusing.. "where's the f'ing file menu?!?" Both can also have their look and feel radically changed rather easily. Also some of these authors tend to forget that Windows has been able to change shells to something completely difference since, well, forever.

#218 medhunter

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 05:33

Me, too.I like unity.I find it productive especially, the hood.I used to like KDE before.

I think because I like to be keyboard dependent with no mouse.



#219 OP Growled

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:11

I've honestly only tried Ubuntu on my crappy (legacy graphics card with no 3D) desktop but I didn't care much for it. I prefer lite weight on it anyway since I do a lot of video and graphics work. I might have a different opinion if I tried Ubuntu on my laptop. But Unity really annoys me from my time spent with it. The HUD seems fine but I'm really more of a mouse guy.



#220 Major_Plonquer

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:09

Well, yeah, because Windows has to do upgrade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, wherein Linux, can skip from nothing to 5. There is less to update, too. As Linux doesn't have all these security holes.

Yes it does.  Linux is by FAR the easiest system to hack.



#221 ichi

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:13

Yes it does.  Linux is by FAR the easiest system to hack.

 

I guess that might depend on the situation (eg. software running on it). As a broad statement though, pwn2own seems to disagree with that (at least up to the last year it was part of the contest), and so does the pwnium contest.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 13:01

Yes it does.  Linux is by FAR the easiest system to hack.

 

With backtrack, you can do anything.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 20:22

The main reason most supercomputers use Linux is simple: Licensing for Windows is prohibitively expensive for machines with a lot of physical CPUs, and access to the code makes it easier to manipulate it to those needs. Supercomputers are very specialised, they don't represent normal usage.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 19:59

I found this interesting:

 

http://www.unixmen.c...ters-use-linux/





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