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Find a new job. Times are hard. Not everyone has the extra cash to tip. Don't like it? That is too bad. This isn't 1999 anymore, its 2013. And don't come at me with that whole "well if you can afford the meal then you can afford the tip" bull crap. Just no.

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Shouting?  Where did I shout?  Did I use caps/exclamation marks someplace?

 

Buying something from you is different that having someone wait hand and foot on you and provide you with a special service.  Tipping is just the right thing to do and anyone who has ever been out in the real world would know this.

um, I didn't say shout, and 'special services'? What did you have in mind?

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Find a new job. Times are hard. Not everyone has the extra cash to tip. Don't like it? That is too bad. This isn't 1999 anymore, its 2013. And don't come at me with that whole "well if you can afford the meal then you can afford the tip" bull crap. Just no.

 

Tipping for service really has not changed much from 1999 to 2013...if at all.  And sorry, if times are that hard for you and the reason why someone doesnt tip...then maybe their spending habits need to be rethought.

um, I didn't say shout, and 'special services'? What did you have in mind?

 

You said shooting and thought it was a typo...my bad but dont know what you meant by shooting.

 

Someone preparing your meals for you is a special service.  I have worked in the industry and know people who still do.  It is not as cut and dry and some make it out to be.  There is lots more work that goes on than serving you or preparing your food.

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Which brings me back to the question, if it's expected, is it a tip?

And yes this question has been answered by techbeck.

 

Not sure I get the question but yes a tip is still a tip even if it's expected because it's not mandatory. The food is the same price if you use takeout or sit down. There are many times I get takeout because I don't feel like being waited on or because I don't feel like spending extra for the tip. However, if I'm sitting down and somebody literally has to serve me, I'm going to tip them. If you can't be arsed to tip someone who did everything for you except feed you, then get takeout.

 

There are times where I avoid scenarios where they expect you to tip. I try not to ride cabs, have my baggage handled, etc. because God forbid you get some thirsty bitch who will be vindictive that they didn't get extra money like this asshat in the story.

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Not sure I get the question but yes a tip is still a tip even if it's expected because it's not mandatory. The food is the same price if you use takeout or sit down. There are many times I get takeout because I don't feel like being waited on or because I don't feel like spending extra for the tip. However, if I'm sitting down and somebody literally has to serve me, I'm going to tip them. If you can't be arsed to tip someone who did everything for you except feed you, then get takeout.

 

There are times where I avoid scenarios where they expect you to tip. I try not to ride cabs, have my baggage handled, etc. because God forbid you get some thirsty bitch who will be vindictive that they didn't get extra money like this asshat in the story.

 

I will tip if food is delivered to me.  However, I do not if I just go and pick it up since I am using my gas and time to do so.  I tipped a delivery guy really good once since he delivered my food when it was pouring rain outside. The guy was soaked.

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Expecting and or demanding tips is just plain rude and selfish. If you did a good job, and the experience was good then you deserve a tip(the customer decides how much), but if the opposite, then no tip. if bad enough then don't let that person take your order. Tipping is not mandatory/law. i hope it never becomes law/manditory.


Not sure how it works where you are at, but in America...it is common knowledge to tip many places.  Some people only make a few bucks an hour as well and the rest is tips.

The customer isn't required to tip, It is courteous to tip.

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Tipping for service really has not changed much from 1999 to 2013...if at all. And sorry, if times are that hard for you and the reason why someone doesnt tip...then maybe their spending habits need to be rethought.

You said shooting and thought it was a typo...my bad but dont know what you meant by shooting.

The post seemed a little hostile.

But this post I'm quoting right now, this is the bigger concern, scaled up to a global scale, would mean more unemployment, as no one's buying, or indeed, tipping, for the service they recieved, and therefore the businesses set up for impulse spending, and fancy spending would close.

One example I can give is the food industry in India, $170 in food at a roadside diner there would feed a small town, they share in the below minimum wage income bracket that was placed here, they don't expect tips, which is why I'd be more inclined to tip. I just had an issue with this guy expecting one, nothing more.

One arguement could be, had he recieved a tip, this wouldn't have been an issue, I was looking at it from the other side, had the customer not ordered from them, it probably wouldn't have been an issue neither.

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The customer isn't required to tip, It is courteous to tip.

 

Not really the point.  It may not be expected, but its common place and knowledge to do so.  To not tip knowing this just shows the character of the person.

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The post seemed a little hostile.

But this post I'm quoting right now, this is the bigger concern, scaled up to a global scale, would mean more unemployment, as no one's buying, or indeed, tipping, for the service they recieved, and therefore the businesses set up for impulse spending, and fancy spending would close.

One example I can give is the food industry in India, $170 in food at a roadside diner there would feed a small town, they share in the below minimum wage income bracket that was placed here, they don't expect tips, which is why I'd be more inclined to tip. I just had an issue with this guy expecting one, nothing more.

One arguement could be, had he recieved a tip, this wouldn't have been an issue, I was lookijg at it from the other side, had the customer not ordered from them, it probably wouldn't have been an issue neither.

 

When everyone else tips and appreciates your hard work, it comes as quite a surprise when someone doesnt...especially on such a large order.  Think about it...you work hard, you do a good job, and make sure the customer is happy.  Then they dont tip and appreciate what you do when everyone else before them and after them had.  Cannot help but take it personally.  It is not about entitlement...its about not being appreciated and how servers and cooks are appreciated is by tipping.  Since it is common place to tip, then yes...they expect it and when it doesnt happen..its like slap in the face.  If it wasnt common place to tip and they someone gets upset about it, then I would have a different opinion on the matter.

 

I work in IT and bust my ass on projects all the time.  Most of the time, I will get a little nod or recognition for my hard work. (nothing monetary)  I expect it since it tells me I am doing a good job and what I am doing matters and is appreciated.  There are times when I get ignored or left out of the credit/kudos and I cannot help but be a little upset about it.

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The post seemed a little hostile.

 

Wasnt hostile  I worked in the industry for a few years.  I know what kind of work it takes to serve/cook for people and the demand and work that is required.  You are on your feet for 8+ hours a day, running around getting things for people, make sure things are perfect and to their liking, cleaning, stocking, cleaning some more.  You expect a little appreciate and get nothing.  Again, its not about entitlement...its about recognition on doing a good job.  Especially if you worked hard had something

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Tipping food service people is the norm here in the US. Most of these people get paid less than minimum wage because of the tips they are supposed to get from customers. True, it's not required for customers to tip, but it's an accepted/expected social behavior here. To not tip someone in this context, especially after ordering a large amount of food, is just down-right obnoxious.

 

No, it is the employer who is obnoxious. The wealth gap in the US is obnoxious.

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It's a bit stupid asking for tips, but at the same time people shouldn't be so outraged over what someone said on twitter

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I agree with what soldier1st said, you should tip someone if you're happy with the service they provided. If not, no tip. 

 

Also, since I don't live in the US, I do have a question for those of you who do : Is there a minimum tip amount? Do I have to tip 18% of my $50 order for example?  

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Wasnt hostile  I worked in the industry for a few years.  I know what kind of work it takes to serve/cook for people and the demand and work that is required.  You are on your feet for 8+ hours a day, running around getting things for people, make sure things are perfect and to their liking, cleaning, stocking, cleaning some more.  You expect a little appreciate and get nothing.  Again, its not about entitlement...its about recognition on doing a good job.  Especially if you worked hard had something

 

There are plenty of jobs where people do a similar level of hard work and get nothing extra on their wages. I appreciate that some people rely on their tips to go towards their wages. Surely if people rely on tips then the system is wrong?

 

If the service was good (and it most places it is) then I tip. What really gets my back up is when they add it to the bill, they are usually the places that are crap, so I ask for it to be removed.

 

It shouldn't be the customer who is being blamed here, its the system as a whole and the employee deserved what he got in my opinion! Assuming the customer was a business then its unlikely that the person who ordered has actually got the authority to spend more of the business's money as a tip.

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Employers should pay legal/decent wages -- not rely on customer tips.

 

And I'd go to the grocery store and cook up my own food, before shelling out $170. :wacko:

 

It's an absolute atrocity that minimum wages in the US are too low to actually live on.  These people rely on tips to pay their bills, raise their children and live.  I know a waitress who busts a gut to make ends meet.  The truth is your political system is letting down the very people they are supposed to represent, it isn't the fault of the employers since they aren't breaking any law !

 

Unless you have personally written to your senator (or whatever the representatives are called in the US) to voice your concerns on the above then I strongly recommend keeping your opinions to yourself.  They serve no purpose other than to make you look like an arrogant individual moaning about your employment laws without having the guts to stand up and be counted.

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Why has America warped the idea of tipping so much? How can people even be paid less than minimum wage? I don't know of any other place where minimum wage seems to be a guideline, every other western nation I've been to sell requires waiters to receive minimum wage. Tips are a bonus, a personal thank you from you to the server for doing a great job.

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Why has America warped the idea of tipping so much? How can people even be paid less than minimum wage? I don't know of any other place where minimum wage seems to be a guideline, every other western nation I've been to sell requires waiters to receive minimum wage. Tips are a bonus, a personal thank you from you to the server for doing a great job.

Yeah I don't think anyone is arguing that the system isn't messed up. But I would say that until it changes, the person that doesn't tip is an arrogant ass, as that is legitimately what it takes for these people to make money.

The 'get another job' argument isn't an excuse to not tip either. They may be looking for another job, or have been out of work and need any job. In any case it doesn't excuse you from tipping if they've done they're job half decent.

Honestly I think a person who just wont tip in America is more entitled than the person getting tips, and that's just how its going to be until the laws around their wages change (which is something I'm all for).

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In Australia tipping isn't the norm, if you tip someone you either have a lot of expendable cash, their service was really good. or you can't be bothered with small change.

 

It has its negatives, employee's do a half-assed job because they aren't likely to get a tip regardless of how much effort they put in.

 

But the positives are your not going to be negatively effected by your looks:

 

example: a hot girl is likely to get more tips from guys even if the less attractive one puts in more effort.

 

Same as guys.

 

Minimum wage is high enough to allow you to actually support yourself and you don't need to rely on tips.

 

When you need a break and go on paid leave your income source doesn't drop severely.

 

As a customer your not forced into paying a tip when you think the service was terrible because its the social norm.

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Tipping food service people is the norm here in the US. Most of these people get paid less than minimum wage because of the tips they are supposed to get from customers. True, it's not required for customers to tip, but it's an accepted/expected social behavior here. To not tip someone in this context, especially after ordering a large amount of food, is just down-right obnoxious.

 

I suggest you all read the minimum wage law in regards to tips.  By law, your employer can pay below minimum wage.  However, these tips must be counted and reported.  If your tips + below minimum hourly pay for the pay period equate to less than a pay period at minimum wage, the employer MUST pay the difference.  At no time can you be paid less than minimum wage.  Of course, receiving more/higher tips means you could potentially earn more than minimum wage. That being the case, if you're great at customer service, one bad tip or one non tip shouldn't matter.  If you hold one of these jobs and never seem to make more than minimum wage, the problem might not be the customers, rather your attitude and/or lack of good customer service skills.

 

I'm not familiar with the food service mentioned.  But had this been an order to feed a meeting, the customer should be ashamed for not tipping.  If it was an order which was derived by 50 individuals which ended up totaling 150, I can see the possibility in the mistake of each person forgetting the tip when putting their money in.  However, the customer responded sarcastically to a tweet specifically mentioning the lack of a tip, implying it was no mistake. 

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It's an absolute atrocity that minimum wages in the US are too low to actually live on.  These people rely on tips to pay their bills, raise their children and live.  I know a waitress who busts a gut to make ends meet.  The truth is your political system is letting down the very people they are supposed to represent, it isn't the fault of the employers since they aren't breaking any law !

And there are a to of people leaving way beyond their means and think they are entitled to things they didnt work for. People having kids they cannot afford to support, people have kids just to get more welfare and live of the system, people buying iPhones, expensive cars, and other things they cannot afford. We live in a materialistic world and people want more and more without being able to afford it and not working for it.

There are plenty of jobs where people do a similar level of hard work and get nothing extra on their wages.

And how many jobs are there were you get payed below minimum wage and tips are the rest of your income.

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People should really stop taking tweets so seriously.  The whole thing is blown out of proportion.   The guy's allowed to have an opinion, if you don't agree that doesn't mean he's nasty.  If you think their being nasty have some common sense and block them and move on.  Simple :)

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I find it incredible that 'tips' can be even considered a main source of income for people. People should be able to live off what they make, not have a job where they scrape by using what they get on the side. Is this why the fast food workers all walked out in the USA? because they don't get any tips?

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Is this why the fast food workers all walked out in the USA? because they don't get any tips?

No, they walked out because they wanted more than minimum wage. $7.50/hr. They wanted twice that.

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People should really stop taking tweets so seriously.  The whole thing is blown out of proportion.   The guy's allowed to have an opinion, if you don't agree that doesn't mean he's nasty.  If you think their being nasty have some common sense and block them and move on.  Simple :)

Social media is corporate media... True social opinions are opressed, removed, taken out of context, and modified to reflect corporations to always being in the limelight.

No, they walked out because they wanted more than minimum wage. $7.50/hr. They wanted twice that.

 

But those working at a resturant making the same minimum wage didn't walk out of their job... Honestly find me ANY employee who don't want twice their wage.

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But those working at a resturant making the same minimum wage didn't walk out of their job...

Because people normally tip and people working at restaurants, non fast food, can make a few hundred bucks a night in tips.

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