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#16 BajiRav

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 22:03

Well they will have more heat than Sony due to embedded RAM. I believe it's something like 5 billions transistors in the Xbox One and 3. something billion in the PS4? 

They have a larger box too. I think the odd 53 number is the highest they can do while still being "virtually silent".




#17 Andrew G.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 22:40

The New Generation should be called: THE SPEC SHEET WARS...

 

I threw "Spec Sheet" brag out the window years ago.

 

The PS2 Spec Sheet was better than the Dreamcast.

I felt the Dreamcast was the better performer.

 

I've learned to take physical/software performance over whats written down.

 

Every generation has it's spec sheet war. It's inevitable. In the end it has little bearing on sales of a console.

 

OG Xbox was more powerful than PS2, PS3 more powerful than Wii etc. What most people care about is value for money and exclusives these days, and usually they both have to be in hand. That's why the Wii U's unofficial price drop last month didn't help the sales, there's still a drought of exclusives on offer.

 

I feel the X1 and PS4 will have a repeat of this generation. The PS4 is obviously better on paper, but Microsoft have great tools to allow devs to keep games close to performing the same. Plus they develop for the stronger console and the weaker one benefits in the process as a by-product almost.



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 22:53

Every generation has it's spec sheet war. It's inevitable. In the end it has little bearing on sales of a console.

OG Xbox was more powerful than PS2, PS3 more powerful than Wii etc. What most people care about is value for money and exclusives these days, and usually they both have to be in hand. That's why the Wii U's unofficial price drop last month didn't help the sales, there's still a drought of exclusives on offer.

I didn't even go to the PS2 right away because they couldn't give me a Phantasy Star type of game.
Or a single player game like Shemnue. It was 3-4 yrs into the PS2 that I got one.


I feel the X1 and PS4 will have a repeat of this generation. The PS4 is obviously better on paper, but Microsoft have great tools to allow devs to keep games close to performing the same. Plus they develop for the stronger console and the weaker one benefits in the process as a by-product almost.

That is true... What sold me on the Xbox, 360, & now Xbox One, is the infrastructure behind it..
Phantasy Star on the Dreamcast, to made my imagination go nuts. And I said I will no longer be confined to the box and disc that is in it.. The XBOX One Is tearing down the already excellent Xbox Live, and giving developers what seems like a blank canvas to create till their hearts content.

I did a post earlier, about the Internet being the killer feature and it's your ISP who's is holding you back this generation.. And I still believe that... Specs are a need don't get me wrong, to see this come to fruition... But Microsoft should focus on specs to make the Xbox better.., and not worry about the comp...

Xbox live as a service made people forget about specs, and I think that will also be the key for this gen as well

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 00:41

That is true... What sold me on the Xbox, 360, & now Xbox One, is the infrastructure behind it..
Phantasy Star on the Dreamcast, to made my imagination go nuts. And I said I will no longer be confined to the box and disc that is in it.. The XBOX One Is tearing down the already excellent Xbox Live, and giving developers what seems like a blank canvas to create till their hearts content.

I did a post earlier, about the Internet being the killer feature and it's your ISP who's is holding you back this generation.. And I still believe that... Specs are a need don't get me wrong, to see this come to fruition... But Microsoft should focus on specs to make the Xbox better.., and not worry about the comp...

Xbox live as a service made people forget about specs, and I think that will also be the key for this gen as well

I think their NFL deal will really help their sales, especially when it comes to the Super Bowl. So I would agree that services will be crucial, but at the same time, a lot of people don't care about 'killer' services and just want to play some freaking incredible games. Perhaps the bigger advantage is XBox One's family friendly potential--kids go bonkers over Kinect, and the next gen motion games should impress.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 09:00

I think their NFL deal will really help their sales, especially when it comes to the Super Bowl. So I would agree that services will be crucial, but at the same time, a lot of people don't care about 'killer' services and just want to play some freaking incredible games. Perhaps the bigger advantage is XBox One's family friendly potential--kids go bonkers over Kinect, and the next gen motion games should impress.

 

I agree that the NFL deal will bring in customers to the Xbox One, but to anyone outside of the US it won't matter (Unless they are originally from the US and liked NFL)

 

The Kinect 2.0 on the other hand is the main advantage the Xbox One has in my opinion, I'm not too sure but I think the PS4 Eye will still utilize the Move Orb Controllers... I didn't use the PS3 Move and I wont use the PS4 Eye if that's the case and would rather buy the Xbox One for its kinect motion control options.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 09:18

 

 

On a related note I hope this is because it really can be done okay, and not to try and close the gap on the PS4

 

 

Exactly what i was thinking. I doubt they'd want to go through all that again, especially as that would be a game ender.


Every generation has it's spec sheet war. It's inevitable. In the end it has little bearing on sales of a console.

 

OG Xbox was more powerful than PS2, PS3 more powerful than Wii etc. What most people care about is value for money and exclusives these days, and usually they both have to be in hand. That's why the Wii U's unofficial price drop last month didn't help the sales, there's still a drought of exclusives on offer.

 

I feel the X1 and PS4 will have a repeat of this generation. The PS4 is obviously better on paper, but Microsoft have great tools to allow devs to keep games close to performing the same. Plus they develop for the stronger console and the weaker one benefits in the process as a by-product almost.

 

This all makes sense to me and why i doubt there will be much difference between the performance of the two once they're released.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 09:35

well the Dreamcast   did perform better  looked better  in some cases  because  it had more Vram back then .  



#23 Showan

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 10:01

Xbox One games look good enough to me where they are now. It does not bother me that the PS4 games will look slightly better.

I don't need an additional 53mhz, if it's gonna over heat the console... I understand it's has a huge fan and built large for heat dissipation, but iirc, faster means shorter lifespan with internal components... I rather have the always on 10yr brag, than slightly increased gpu clock speed and shorter hardware lifespan.

Now if the increase was within (well within to be safe) its thermal limits... Well I say, thank you for the boost...

Just make sure that all software is properly optimized, all drivers are up to snuff, and all the other good stuff...

Xbox On (actually can't wait to say that)...



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