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President Barack Obama vetoed an International Trade Commission (ITC) ban on some models of the iPhone and iPad today.

The ban started in June and only affected older models like the iPhone 4 and the iPad 2 with cellular data connection. At the time, the ITC said those devices violated patents from Samsung.

Since iPhones and iPads are made overseas, the ITC was able to block them from being imported to the U.S. Obama's veto today means Apple will be able to ship those devices without worry.

 

It's good to see that Obama is completely bypassing illegal actions of Apple, the bans of ITC and simply saying F-U to every company that's not Apple out there.

 

Talk about free market and legal system. A great way to create inequality in the market. 

 

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Obama-Vetoes-Ban-On-Some-iPad-And-iPhone-Models-4705218.php

 

What a signal to every non-American company that some American companies simply play by a completely different set of rules.

 

I wonder if he'll veto Samsung's infringements as well?  /s

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I suppose you missed the post on the front page, stating that Michael Froman issued the veto? /s

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It's good to see that Obama is completely bypassing illegal actions of Apple, the bans of ITC and simply saying F-U to every company that's not Apple out there.

 

Talk about free market and legal system. A great way to create inequality in the market. 

 

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Obama-Vetoes-Ban-On-Some-iPad-And-iPhone-Models-4705218.php

 

What a signal to every non-American company that some American companies simply play by a completely different set of rules.

 

I wonder if he'll veto Samsung's infringements as well?  /s

 

Except Obama didn't veto anything, please read before you knee jerk.

 

http://allthingsd.com/20130803/obama-vetoes-apple-product-ban/

 

The veto came from Froman

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I suppose you missed the post on the front page, stating that Michael Froman issued the veto? /s

Except Obama didn't veto anything, please read before you knee jerk.

 

http://allthingsd.com/20130803/obama-vetoes-apple-product-ban/

 

The veto came from Froman

Do you honestly believe that Obama wasn't complicit in the veto? The idea that members of his administration act without oversight lacks any credibility. As usual, whenever a legal ruling goes against American interests the US government

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Do you honestly believe that Obama wasn't complicit in the veto? The idea that members of his administration act without oversight lacks any credibility. As usual, whenever a legal ruling goes against American interests the US government

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It must be good to be from the USA, eh.

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Who knows, but I just don't like the disinformation you guys are spreading, and so I'll continue to correct it wherever I see fit.

It's not disinformation, as Obama is responsible for his administration. You're quibbling over semantics here. Once again Obama has demonstrated that he is not interested in respecting international law and will defy it whenever it serves American interests, even when such behaviour is counter-productive in the long run. He's just as much of a corporate shill as those who came before him.

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..  :s

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Obama owns Apple stocks--This move shouldn't surprise.

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So this basically gives Apple the freedom to do whatever in the heck they want to do and they won't have to worry about consequences.

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So this basically gives Apple the freedom to do whatever in the heck they want to do and they won't have to worry about consequences.

 

Seems like it.  And I see comments about Google having the government in their back pockets.....

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Do you honestly believe that Obama wasn't complicit in the veto? The idea that members of his administration act without oversight lacks any credibility.


I can't agree with that just on it's face. America is a big, powerful, complex country, economy, and government. It is simply not possible for the President to approve every decision, that's why he has a cabinet and administration.

It's quite possible he approved, but you can't assume that. Not for something like this. If it is homecooking, I'm sure the US isn't the first or last country to do something of this nature.

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I suppose you missed the post on the front page, stating that Michael Froman issued the veto? /s

 

Clearly he did, but lets not allow reality to intrude in his "Obama is the most evil president evar!" illusion...

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/obama-administration-overrules-itc-import-ban-of-older-apple-ios-devices

 

Most sites out there are saying Obama vetoed the ban and calling it a Presidential veto.  Not sure if Michael Froman can issue the veto himself, or if Obama needs to sign off on it.  Thought only the President has the authority to veto things like this

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Most sites out there are saying Obama vetoed the ban and calling it a Presidential veto.  Not sure if Michael Froman can issue the veto himself, or if Obama needs to sign off on it.  Thought only the President has the authority to veto things like this


Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution grants the President the authority to veto legislation passed by Congress.

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U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 7
 
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 7 - Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose orconcur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law

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Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution grants the President the authority to veto legislation passed by Congress.

 

Yes, i know that much.  But still curious if you search, most sites are saying Obama vetoed this.  Even the WSJ is saying as much.

 

If you read the letter here, seems like Obama had a hand in it.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2013/08/03/president-obama-vetoes-itc-ban-on-iphone-ipads-apple-happy-samsung-not/

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Yes, i know that much.  But still curious if you search, most sites are saying Obama vetoed this.  Even the WSJ is saying as much.
 
If you read the letter here, seems like Obama had a hand in it.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2013/08/03/president-obama-vetoes-itc-ban-on-iphone-ipads-apple-happy-samsung-not/


"President Obama and his administration today issued a ..."

"The administration, which had 60 days to review the ITC

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"President Obama and his administration today issued a ..."

"The administration, which had 60 days to review the ITC

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From the link I posted and from the letter within....


I don't disagree with that. "...evaluation, may, disapprove, approve, taken no action and allow." In other words, Presidential business as usual. The President usually gets directly involved in issues such as this, when there is an "incident," lol.

That's why President's administrative choices are important and often contested.

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I can't agree with that just on it's face. America is a big, powerful, complex country, economy, and government. It is simply not possible for the President to approve every decision, that's why he has a cabinet and administration.

It's quite possible he approved, but you can't assume that. Not for something like this. If it is homecooking, I'm sure the US isn't the first or last country to do something of this nature.

It's his Administration so whatever happens during his tenure is his responsibility.

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It's his Administration so whatever happens during his tenure is his responsibility.


That's why it's important to pick a good administration.

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That's why it's important to pick a good administration.

 

If only it was that easy.  You try to pick the lesser of two evils and you are always left with a jackass.

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It's his Administration so whatever happens during his tenure is his responsibility.

 

Ultimate responsibility, sure. Doesn't mean he actually DID it though. It was probably one of a million memo's that crosses his desk every day.

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Illegal actions?  Samsung a non-American company?  Don't make me laugh.

 

Good for Obama, or whoever's name was on the veto.  They were well within their rights to do so and I agree.  Why do so many of you just see 'international' and go nutters to the point you start screaming protectionism and defiance of the global community?

 

"The problem is that this would have made the ITC the forum of choice for SEP abusers (strategic abusers who want to get away with infringement of non-SEPs as well as overly aggressive monetizers).

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