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Xbox One DVR Records At 720p, 30 FPS

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Microsoft system architect Marc Whitten has revealed some new details about the Xbox One's video recording functionality, which captures footage at a fixed resolution irrespective of the game in question.
 
"Game DVR captures beautiful clips at 720p 30fps," Whitten told IGN. "The first thing you'll see with our game DVR is the integration of our Upload service on the console." As previously reported, this onboard DVR automatically records the last five minutes of playback for later editing, or can quickly save a thirty-second blast for easy uploads of kills or impressive online achievements. Players can also livestream to Twitch.tv and suchlike.
 
He went on to describe how you'll find your video clips in the Xbox One interface."You'll be able to see these clips in the Xbox One Guide, in your own game DVR collection, and when you are looking at gamercards on the system," he explained. "You'll also see games take advantage of this platform capability and do interesting things to integrate captured game footage into the game experience itself."
 
This last statement is rather intriguing - perhaps we'll see some games showing your most impressive conquests on in-game billboards and suchlike, or even other players to get a little competition going. Demon's Souls-style messages left to show how other players tackled a particular game section would also be an interesting concept, though will require some ground-up design to implement.
 
We're looking forward to see what both the Xbox One and PS4 bring to the table in terms of video capture once they launch, but we daresay that capture cards probably aren't quaking in their ports. Especially if you want to, you know, record in 1080p.

 

 

Source: http://www.dealspwn.com/xbox-dvr-records-720p-30-fps-150324

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They really shouldn't refer to it as a DVR because it is just going to have people that don't know any better thinking it records TV as well.

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With any luck, if we get a true Windows 8 OS it'll also support all the apps and hopefully FRAPs or someone will bring out an app which is better.

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With any luck, if we get a true Windows 8 OS it'll also support all the apps and hopefully FRAPs or someone will bring out an app which is better.

Err, it uses the kernel, there is no true windows 8 full OS there. It will never support fraud or anything like it. It will run windows RT based apps specifically released for the Xbox one store

If you absolutely need your gaming recorded at 1080 for some reason, then get an external hdmi recorder"

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They really shouldn't refer to it as a DVR because it is just going to have people that don't know any better thinking it records TV as well.

I think the "Game" part of the "Game DVR" name should make it fairly clear on what it does  :D

 

(Assuming of course that that's the real name... if they get the nitwits who've done the current XB1 PR to name it then all bets are off... :s )

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Indeed. This 5-minute "DVR" is for the sharing features of the console. I for one don't want to be uploading 5 minute clips at 1080p resolution to facebook and the like, that's eat up bandwidth pretty fast. 720p is the better compromise here, still HD, yet producing smaller file sizes for upload.

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Indeed. This 5-minute "DVR" is for the sharing features of the console. I for one don't want to be uploading 5 minute clips at 1080p resolution to facebook and the like, that's eat up bandwidth pretty fast. 720p is the better compromise here, still HD, yet producing smaller file sizes for upload.

It's got a 5 minute permanent time shift(they could upgrade this by changing a single variable in the OS). You can if you decide to actually record record much longer than that, that's just the current limit on how far you can go back if you can/don't want to stop the game to record.

Of course the one has another advantage there, in that you don't need to stop the game to go to a record menu or hit a button disrupting your gameplay to start recording. You simple tell it to record with your voice and it records from 30 seconds ago on a saved recording until you stop.

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Err, it uses the kernel, there is no true windows 8 full OS there. It will never support fraud or anything like it. It will run windows RT based apps specifically released for the Xbox one store

If you absolutely need your gaming recorded at 1080 for some reason, then get an external hdmi recorder"

 

I never said FULL OS. Game consoles don't need a FULL OS. So you have proof that it'll run RT apps only, and specifically Xbox One tailored apps and NOT from the Windows Store?

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I never said FULL OS. Game consoles don't need a FULL OS. So you have proof that it'll run RT apps only, and specifically Xbox One tailored apps and NOT from the Windows Store?

They've basically said you'll get the full windows store, however they've also said you'll only be able to snap/multitask certain apps alongside your game and that probably won't be up to app developers.

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They've basically said you'll get the full windows store, however they've also said you'll only be able to snap/multitask certain apps alongside your game and that probably won't be up to app developers.

Their announcement I believe said you compile Xbox apps the same as windows 8 apps. By you won't get the regular windows store. The developer will have to chose to release it on the Xbox as well or it won't show up there.

And yeah, not all apps will be able to multitask/snap

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They really shouldn't refer to it as a DVR because it is just going to have people that don't know any better thinking it records TV as well.

Maybe GVC (Game Video Capture) or GVR (Game Video Recoder)

I will probably only use this feature during my NBA 2K14 highlights. 720p is good enough. Still HD and crisp.

Anything else just buy a capture device since XB1 supports capture devices..

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It's got a 5 minute permanent time shift(they could upgrade this by changing a single variable in the OS). You can if you decide to actually record record much longer than that, that's just the current limit on how far you can go back if you can/don't want to stop the game to record.

Of course the one has another advantage there, in that you don't need to stop the game to go to a record menu or hit a button disrupting your gameplay to start recording. You simple tell it to record with your voice and it records from 30 seconds ago on a saved recording until you stop.

 

 

Wait, your saying that there is no time limit on recording gameplay, just a limit on how far back you can go during live gameplay?

 

This is the first I have heard of this, did MS confirm this?

 

If they allow you to record for much longer than 5 minutes and then upload that to services like twitch.tv, that would be great. I don't mind starting the recording before I start a game. Is the 720p limit still in place for all recording?

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twitch lets you live record.

 

MS has never stated how long your recordings can be, only that 5 mins is the furthest you can go back .

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twitch lets you live record.

 

MS has never stated how long your recordings can be, only that 5 mins is the furthest you can go back .

 

Cmon HawkMan unless you believe MS are in the business about being cryptic when they have no reason to, it's 5 minutes.

 

Now, Ken Lobb of Microsoft Game Studios has clarified the feature. "The idea is you're always recording," he told GameSpot at San Diego Comic-Con. "The last five minutes of any game you're playing is always being stored locally on your hard drive." That allows for two different sharing options, according to Lobb: you can either say "Xbox, record that," to instantly save the last 30 seconds of gameplay, or optionally scrub through the full five minutes of footage, edit it down, add extras like Kinect pictures of you playing, and turn it all into a video.

 

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/22/4547164/xbox-one-five-minute-recording

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Cmon HawkMan unless you believe MS are in the business about being cryptic when they have no reason to, it's 5 minutes.

 

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/22/4547164/xbox-one-five-minute-recording

Can you grab 5minutes worth of gameplay from say 40minutes ago?

Or is it strictly the last 5minutes you are currently in during gameplay?...

No time limit for people who are into using capture devices correct?

I've never used a capture device before, but it seem kinda cool.

5minutes is all ill need for NBA2K

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the duration was max to 5 minutes, that's just about half of original youtube restriction.

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It's all software and can be even better over time.  That is the brilliance of Xbox One.  It's all software and cloud based so the platform won't stay still and features will evolve and new features will be created.


the duration was max to 5 minutes, that's just about half of original youtube restriction.

 

You can probably do live streams much longer.

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720p seems fine to me.

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Cmon HawkMan unless you believe MS are in the business about being cryptic when they have no reason to, it's 5 minutes.

 

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/22/4547164/xbox-one-five-minute-recording

 

 

But that quote is specifically about the timeshift recording, as in you can pause the game by going to the record menu, and chose to save all of those last five minutes, or edit out the parts you want. 

Elsewhere they have mentioned that you can also simply start recording, but they haven't mentioned how long that recording can be from the point you start recording. 

 

and yeah, you can stream to twitch for days if you so want, most people wont have the bandwidth for streaming very high quality though, with everyone having async broadband often at 1 or 2 Mbps, and when that up stream has to be shared with multiplayer it can only use so much of it to avoid lagging the game. 

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Cmon HawkMan unless you believe MS are in the business about being cryptic when they have no reason to, it's 5 minutes.

 

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/22/4547164/xbox-one-five-minute-recording

 

 

But that quote is specifically about the timeshift recording, as in you can pause the game by going to the record menu, and chose to save all of those last five minutes, or edit out the parts you want. 

Elsewhere they have mentioned that you can also simply start recording, but they haven't mentioned how long that recording can be from the point you start recording. 

 

and yeah, you can stream to twitch for days if you so want, most people wont have the bandwidth for streaming very high quality though, with everyone having async broadband often at 1 or 2 Mbps, and when that up stream has to be shared with multiplayer it can only use so much of it to avoid lagging the game. 

 

 

 

Ok now the water is muddy.  One person says its strictly a 5 minute limite regardless, one says that just refers to the timeshifting ability.

 

 

Right now, the only hard facts we have, as posted by Audioboxer, seem to point out the limit of time shifting to the last 5 minutes of gameplay.  Whether that referes to all recording options and what that means for the live streaming to twitch that they announced before, we don't know for sure yet.

 

So its simple, we need more confirmation from MS on these specfic parts.  Until then, there is little to argue other than semantics. 

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H.264 720p@30fps is a good compromise considering today's codec and bandwidth limitations, but hopefully over the course of this generation's long expected lifespan, we'll get something better through a software update. H.265 is right around the corner after all.

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H.264 720p@30fps is a good compromise considering today's codec and bandwidth limitations, but hopefully over the course of this generation's long expected lifespan, we'll get something better through a software update. H.265 is right around the corner after all.

 

 

That is true, but H.265 support would require the cpu to do the decoding since the amd gpu does not decoding such video.  I'm sure the cpu is strong enough though.

 

This brings another issue to my mind related to 4K output support.  This isnt related to gaming since no games will run at that resolution, but since both the ps4 and x1 support it its important to keep in mind that 4k is limited to 4k @ 30fps.  That is mostly due to HDMI 1.4 limitations which cannot pass 4k @ 60fps.  To properly support 4K output would require the coming HDMI 2.0 standard, which neither console will have.  I have been keeping an eye on 4k tv pricing, so I'm paying attention to what these consoles are going to support once I have such a tv.

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