alberto20 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Computerworld - Talk about having things both ways! A few months ago in its "Scroogled" ad campaign, Microsoft was complaining about how Google uses your search terms and Gmail contents to deliver targeted ads. Now, Microsoft is touting how Windows 8.1 uses your search terms to deliver targeted ads, even when you're doing searches on local drives. Do people at Microsoft ever talk to anyone outside their own groups? Does the Bing team need to be introduced to the Scroogled team? Scroogled? How about Bing-Bang-Bungled? Windows 8.1 is still in preview, but when you do a local search in it, your results will include both local and Bing-provided hits. Microsoft will then use your search terms for targeted ads. More: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241524/Steven_J._Vaughan_Nichols_Microsoft_Bing_bang_bungles_local_search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Windows 8 has ads in the search UI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notchinese Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols TomJones, Aergan, funkydude and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto20 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 And here is Microsoft talking about it: http://community.bingads.microsoft.com/ads/en/bingads/b/blog/archive/2013/07/02/new-search-ad-experiences-within-windows-8-1.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 And it takes about a half of a second to disable it. Not that I'm justifying it's existence, that sort of thing cheeses me off in other OS's too. Hopefully there will still be support for OpenSearch (federated searches) like in Windows 7, would love to see that integrated nicely into the start screen. FiB3R and Thief000 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thief000 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto20 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Screenshot (1).png Yes, very nice, but it doesn't say anything about sending your local searches to Bing. That's what the article is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azies Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Seems they don't have a lot of room to talk when they push their "Scroggled" campaign. psmoked and theyarecomingforyou 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted August 13, 2013 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2013 At a guess, if you disable all the bing options on this page, MS won't mix bing with local search? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes, very nice, but it doesn't say anything about sending your local searches to Bing. That's what the article is about. This isn't new to 8... I'm doing online searches through Explorer in Windows 7 using the same mechanism as a local file search, 8 just has it on the start screen too (which I wish I could do in 7's start menu). That's why the option to disable it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted August 13, 2013 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2013 I've turned that off and don't get bing results. I'm searching for "Mouse" or "Display" on my machine (for control panel hits) - I don't need an ad showing me to buy a mouse or a new monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted August 13, 2013 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2013 This is surely a questionable move at best, since Windows is a paid for app. One that's pretty expensive in some guises (Pro is nearly ?200, in software of that price I don't expect ads, even optional ones) theyarecomingforyou and psmoked 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto20 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 People, This article is about the fact that LOCAL searches get sent to bing. Not about the fact that Bing searches shows up when you hit search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siah1214 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If you're searching local files and folders, it does not pass the search. It only passes the search term when you search "Everywhere", which includes Bing, which includes advertisers. Article is BS FUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 People, This article is about the fact that LOCAL searches get sent to bing. Not about the fact that Bing searches shows up when you hit search. Yes, and this isn't new to Windows 8. This isn't even unique to Windows. I can do the exact same thing in 7 and my Linux desktop right now, just kind of gimped in the 7 start menu version of it. It doesn't care if it's local or remote, it's a unified search system. If it's searching "everywhere", that means exactly that.. everything it has access to. It's just going through the available sources for search info. Turn it off if it bugs you that bad, click click done. I do take offense at the ads though. BajiRav, nitins60, funkydude and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes, very nice, but it doesn't say anything about sending your local searches to Bing. That's what the article is about. Turn that off and local searches stay local. I did not even bother opening the article because the author is a well known troll. The article is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted August 13, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think people have the wrong idea about what it's doing when it's turned on. First off it's not sending any local file info to bing to scan and push ads to you, all it does is pass the search term you type in the search field over to Bing at the same time. It's basically doing two searches at once and giving you the results in one place, the search pane. The search pane doesn't show you ads either, it shows you links. You only see ads when you bring up the new Smart Search "app", if you click on one of the top results to a local file or control panel/pc settings area of the OS then you don't see ads. Besides, you can turn it off, if it really bugs you. I bet the majority won't care though, the general computing public doesn't think twice about sharing their info online to some service as we've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitins60 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 It's like saying, "I went to buy a Butterscotch Icecream, and that stupid shop fellow show cased all the Icecreams including Butterscotch". OMG sue him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusOrion Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Smart Search sending your search phrase to Bing is NOT equal to Google scanning the ENTIRE F'EN contents of your emails!!!! NOT THE SAME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalint Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 http://community.bingads.microsoft.com/ads/en/bingads/b/blog/archive/2013/07/02/new-search-ad-experiences-within-windows-8-1.aspx lmfao. Dis company, total LOL. Astra.Xtreme 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Seems to be well received by the commentors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfirth Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It sounds bad, but it's not. And it's completely unobtrusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 oh well, I will just instruct my routers to block bing related IP addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I'm done with Microsoft once Windows 7 reaches EOL. What a joke its become. Raa and f0rk_b0mb 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatlesssun Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Old news and actually this is pretty cool. Everyone goes nuts when they hear the word ad but there's very few ads there and they are all related to the search terms. And as other apps are designed to use the new API they can hook into the search terms, so once search can take you not to only different wen sites but apps as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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