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Microsoft announced yesterday that the Xbox One would be launching in November in 13 markets rather than the earlier stated 21, with most countries in Europe such as Sweden, Belgium and Denmark among others and Russia receiving it in early 2014.

 

Consumers of the respective countries aren?t the only ones annoyed about it. Battlefield 4 developer DICE is based in Sweden, for instance, and lead core gameplay design director Alan Kertz took to Twitter to voice his disapproval.

 

I see Microsoft seems intent on making it easier and easier to pick #PS4 for Gen4 in Sweden.

As for claims of ?localizing? the console for local languages, Kertz stated that:

 

@Demize99 I just love the excuse too. "We need time to translate it and get local apps made"........wow

@JoshuaGWilson_ Being an expat in Sweden. EVERYONE SPEAKS ENGLISH HERE. And the locals HATE the Swedish translations.

He wasn?t alone, as lead gameplay designer Gustav Halling stated that Sweden always bought what was hot and now, that will be the PlayStation 4.

 

Not sure what @Xbox is thinking when not launching in a progressive country like Sweden, we always buy what is hot and that will be PS4..

? Gustav Halling (@gustavhalling) August 15, 2013

 

Halling also stated that though he will be getting a console, he may be one of the few after the delay.

 

@Death2Rum @Xbox I'm still getting a XboxOne but I'm one of the few after this. Might buy a ps4 also, we will see.

? Gustav Halling (@gustavhalling) August 15, 2013

 

One has to pity Microsoft at this point: After announcing the Xbox One, the company was skewered for what were viewed as draconian DRM policies and lack of enthusiasm in indie developers. Microsoft has been back-tracking on every single one of its policies since then, including Kinect no longer being mandatory for playing on the console. How badly will this affect the console?s standing in Europe and Russia? We?ll find out in the coming months.

 

 

 

Source: http://gamingbolt.com/battlefield-4-devs-comment-on-xbox-one-delay-in-sweden-and-other-markets

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Another negative thread from you trying to cause war.

 

A couple of people making remarks on twitter is not news. I agree with the chaps though.

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Another negative thread from you trying to cause war.

 

A couple of people making remarks on twitter is not news. I agree with the chaps though.

Devs from a high-profile developer making a hugely anticipated multiplatform, launch-day title publicly lambasting Microsoft isn't news worthy? It sounds like it to me. At the very least, it's discussion worthy. And you're mad at Audioboxer for posting it because it's negative? Should we only post positive things (about anything) on this forum?

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Devs from a high-profile developer making a hugely anticipated multiplatform, launch-day title publicly lambasting Microsoft isn't news worthy? It sounds like it to me. At the very least, it's discussion worthy. And you're mad at Audioboxer for posting it because it's negative? Should we only post positive things (about anything) on this forum?

No it isn't. Its 250 character ranting from people who are complaining about it not launching in their region on Day 1. Similar to what we do on here, do we have news articles? Just because you're a pawn in a massive picture doesn't mean the pawns represent the views of their employer. 

 

I'm referring to the fact the starts a lot of posts where they're negative in the MS forum and only positive in the Sony one. 

 

Stop being pedantic.

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Devs from a high-profile developer making a hugely anticipated multiplatform, launch-day title publicly lambasting Microsoft isn't news worthy? It sounds like it to me. At the very least, it's discussion worthy. And you're mad at Audioboxer for posting it because it's negative? Should we only post positive things (about anything) on this forum?

 

No, this guy (JohnnyLH) is I think a "microsoft-defender". In a LOT of threads about the xbox, xbox360, xbox one or anything that has to do with Microsoft, you see him defending them.

You should look it up,you'll see what I mean :).

 

Back on topic, I can understand the views of the BF4 Developers, the delay of the X1 in some (more civilized) countries could potentially be a blow to the growth of the X1 and so on...

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Another negative thread from you trying to cause war.

 

A couple of people making remarks on twitter is not news. I agree with the chaps though.

Really? I don't think it's trying to cause a war.. and while not news worthy, it shows that people do care.. and that changes do affect people.  I am sure it would be the same if sony said: "NOPE"" to releasing in all the countries they are.  

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2 of the biggest idiots who work for DICE, nothing to see here.

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No, this guy (JohnnyLH) is I think a "microsoft-defender". In a LOT of threads about the xbox, xbox360, xbox one or anything that has to do with Microsoft, you see him defending them.

You should look it up,you'll see what I mean :).

 

Back on topic, I can understand the views of the BF4 Developers, the delay of the X1 in some (more civilized) countries could potentially be a blow to the growth of the X1 and so on...

Another thought process what annoys me. Obviously since I'm defending a company which is publicly hated for no reason makes me love them.

 

I've owned every generation of console to date, have an iPhone an old Android phone and a 920.

 

I'll also be buying the PS4 because I love a lot of their 1st parties. 

 

Yet, I'm still a fanboy.

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Really? I don't think it's trying to cause a war.. and while not news worthy, it shows that people do care.. and that changes do affect people.  I am sure it would be the same if sony said: "NOPE"" to releasing in all the countries they are.  

Its not news worthy. All we get out of this is that some people aren't annoyed its not releasing Day 1 in Sweden. Holy cow, big news what we found out the other day.

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Stick to the thread topic, please.

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We don't really know what the overall delay will be, what if it's just January for some?  2014 isn't that far away you know.  And they didn't say late or early or anything, just "2014".  Besides, most of the games I'm looking forward to playing are in 2014, for both systems.  I've been saying from the start that i'm in no rush to buy either till next year, quite a few games still coming to the 360 that can hold me over, like the new splinter cell that I can't play till sometime next month due to being so busy at work.   The new Batman AO game is another, and so on. 

 

Waiting 2-4 more months will pass by quick for me, I've got games to play and my 360 isn't worthless just because the new gen systems are out.

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My 360 will (knock on wood) be chugging along just fine till next Christmas where i'll then decide which system to buy.

 

Till then I have all these new (old) games to play since I never got a chance to when they came out (free games for Xbox Live Gold thing).

 

I have Battlefield 3 also and never got around to play it so I can dive into that before jumping on BF4 as well.

 

Sux for those though that wanted to get it ASAP and now have to wait, maybe Microsoft's flub will be Sony's blessing in those countries.

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Another negative thread from you trying to cause war.

Nonsense. News shouldn't be censored simply because some people will respond badly to it. Those who turn it into a "war" are the ones responsible, not those reporting it.

 

Another negative thread from you trying to cause war.

 

A couple of people making remarks on twitter is not news.

It certainly is news when they're the developers of one of the top next-gen titles.

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Nonsense. News shouldn't be censored simply because some people will respond badly to it. Those who turn it into a "war" are the ones responsible, not those reporting it.

 

It certainly is news when they're the developers of one of the top next-gen titles.

If the news was surrounding the game they are making then yes, if its about anything else, its just some other Joe Bloggs complaining about something which they're effected by.

 

Did we not know it was being delayed in Sweden, was it missed in the PR release from yesterday? No it wasn't, so it isn't news.

 

The article was posted to give a negative spin like all the other X1 articles he's posted, probably bar one.

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Nonsense. News shouldn't be censored simply because some people will respond badly to it. Those who turn it into a "war" are the ones responsible, not those reporting it.

 

It certainly is news when they're the developers of one of the top next-gen titles.

 

How about covering all aspects of the news? I made a related thread where Microsoft is saying that you can import and use the console in a non-launch country. Audioboxer obviously didn't and won't post it because it is "positive" news on the matter.

 

No one is demanding censoring negative news but cover all aspects of it. If you visit Xbox Gaming section long enough, you start noticing patterns of who posts what and it is annoying when Sony supporters start flooding with one sided threads.

 

That's the sticking point, get it?

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How about covering all aspects of the news? I made a related thread where Microsoft is saying that you can import and use the console in a non-launch country. Audioboxer obviously didn't and won't post it because it is "positive" news on the matter.

 

No one is demanding censoring negative news but cover all aspects of it. If you visit Xbox Gaming section long enough, you start noticing patterns of who posts what and it is annoying when Sony supporters start flooding with one sided threads.

Personally I don't see any issue with that. Different people will report stories that interest them and sometimes they follow a particular narrative but that's only to be expected. As long as people are willing to discuss the points raised objectively I don't have a problem. Companies rely on fans to create positive press so it's only natural that those critical of those companies will do the opposite. I wouldn't expect a member of Greenpeace to run a story about BP giving money to charity and would expect their coverage to be sceptical if they did.

 

I understand where you're coming from but I don't see it as a problem.

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To be honest I find this situation quite embarrassing for MS, I work for, compared to MS, a small software company and whilst we don't do localisation for everywhere. Sometimes not even at launch of a new version etc, we offer more than the current list MS is managing for release.

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How about covering all aspects of the news? I made a related thread where Microsoft is saying that you can import and use the console in a non-launch country. Audioboxer obviously didn't and won't post it because it is "positive" news on the matter.

 

No one is demanding censoring negative news but cover all aspects of it. If you visit Xbox Gaming section long enough, you start noticing patterns of who posts what and it is annoying when Sony supporters start flooding with one sided threads.

 

That's the sticking point, get it?

 

if you want the microsoft section to be flooded with positive, microsoft worshiping news then get off your ass and make it happen instead of whining in just about every single god damn thread that ab posts. The constant whining of you and others is just as bad as any 'fanboyism' you people accuse him of.

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How about covering all aspects of the news? I made a related thread where Microsoft is saying that you can import and use the console in a non-launch country. Audioboxer obviously didn't and won't post it because it is "positive" news on the matter.

 

No one is demanding censoring negative news but cover all aspects of it. If you visit Xbox Gaming section long enough, you start noticing patterns of who posts what and it is annoying when Sony supporters start flooding with one sided threads.

 

That's the sticking point, get it?

 

He can post what he likes, he's not beholden to you to post articles according to whatever your view of "balanced" is.

 

Heck, I'd go so far as to argue his biased aggregation is a drip in the ocean compared to the amount of sycophantry that surrounds Microsoft on this forum.

 

Defending something purely because it's against "your side" is harmful, posting marketing guff as if it was technical data is harmful. This however isn't, everyone has biases - the issue is how much you let your biases control you.

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hes just mad that his only option is a ps4. its ok,i,and the majority of people would be ****ed too.

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Personally I don't see any issue with that. Different people will report stories that interest them and sometimes they follow a particular narrative but that's only to be expected. As long as people are willing to discuss the points raised objectively I don't have a problem. Companies rely on fans to create positive press so it's only natural that those critical of those companies will do the opposite. I wouldn't expect a member of Greenpeace to run a story about BP giving money to charity and would expect their coverage to be sceptical if they did.

 

I understand where you're coming from but I don't see it as a problem.

 

I just explained why JonnyLH posted the way he did. I don't want to say anymore on the topic cause we are sidetracking.

 

if you want the microsoft section to be flooded with positive, microsoft worshiping news then get off your ass and make it happen instead of whining in just about every single god damn thread that ab posts. The constant whining of you and others is just as bad as any 'fanboyism' you people accuse him of.

He can post what he likes, he's not beholden to you to post articles according to whatever your view of "balanced" is.

 

Heck, I'd go so far as to argue his biased aggregation is a drip in the ocean compared to the amount of sycophantry that surrounds Microsoft on this forum.

 

Defending something purely because it's against "your side" is harmful, posting marketing guff as if it was technical data is harmful. This however isn't, everyone has biases - the issue is how much you let your biases control you.

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What did people think would happen when they complained nonstop about random features? Did they actually think it would make the development time shorter for the One and not longer like we are seeing?

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What did people think would happen when they complained nonstop about random features? Did they actually think it would make the development time shorter for the One and not longer like we are seeing?

 

Except that's not the problem.

 

"Launch volumes are not really an issue. This was simply a software issue in terms of getting local language and voice support in the dash. It's pretty straightforward, but disappointing I know for people who are missing launch." - Albert Penello, Microsoft Director of Marketing

 

Source | Neowin Article

 

For the record, don't blame the people on a decision that isn't up to them. Remember that Microsoft is the one in control here; they have the time tables and measurements of supply, not us. What they want to do and what they can actually do are two different things, and with that information, they will act accordingly.

 

 

Did we not know it was being delayed in Sweden, was it missed in the PR release from yesterday? No it wasn't, so it isn't news.

 

This is a discussion forum, not the front page. Whether it's newsworthy or not is irrelevant.

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Well I think what this illustrates is that MS needs to be open about the plan going forward.

 

If they announce that these other regions are getting the console officially in January, then the impact is very small in my opinion.

 

 

Gamescom will be very important for MS.  Since they have a keynote presentation, I really hope they decide to announce specific dates for other regions.  That should cool the anger directed at them somewhat.

 

They also need to keep spreading the word about the importing situation.  All of these people that are saying that they are English speaking and that MS should just release it in that form can just purchase an X1 from an of the European regions that are getting it first.

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