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#31 +Nik L

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:15

Way overdue... the only reason he stayed for so long is because of his relationship with Gates.

 

Utter crap!  You may believe that massive corporations work this way, but in this case, nope!

 

He drove the company into the ground.... Mistake after mistake... Millions of dollars wasted..

 

And yet they are still having outstandingly good results...  Right...




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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:16

Can't say I'm too surprised. I was a big defender of Ballmer for a long time. As much as people complained, MS was doing well. The software they were producing was great. Windows 7 is probably one of the best OSes ever built. He  really helped do a lot of great work with MS and helped them grow considerably. Then came the recent change in direction. Don't tell Neowin, but there's a lot of negative feeling towards MS recently. Sales have been poor, they've shot themselves in the foot multiple times with Windows, Xbox, and mobile, three of their biggest products, and all around they've just lost their spark. I can't think of a time in as long as I've used computers that the overall feel for MS that I've seen from people around me is so low. It's time to change it up. Ballmer is old enough and far rich enough to retire and do something different. MS is ready for a new perspective.

 

This times a million.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:19

And yet they are still having outstandingly good results...  Right...

Show me where Windows 8 is outselling Windows 7?
Show me where Windows Phone is selling anything?
If they cant sell better than a previous product they have released, its a failure, even if they are making money.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:20

Utter crap!  You may believe that massive corporations work this way, but in this case, nope!

 

And yet they are still having outstandingly good results...  Right...

They did make a lot of bad decisions.. 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:20

Show me where Windows 8 is outselling Windows 7?
Show me where Windows Phone is selling anything?
If they cant sell better than a previous product they have released, its a failure, even if they are making money.

don't worry about it.. He won't stop arguing with you. 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:20

Hopefully they will now  remember that desktop PCs exist and use a desktop with a start-button and list of programs that can then be selected. But only on desktops. Phones and tablets not included.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:21

Way overdue... the only reason he stayed for so long is because of his relationship with Gates.
 
He drove the company into the ground.... Mistake after mistake... Millions of dollars wasted...
 
Glad to see him go


How is more sales than ever and millions upon millions earned anything you said ?

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:22

don't worry about it.. He won't stop arguing with you. 

Its okay im just stirring people up lol

 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:24

Show me where Windows 8 is outselling Windows 7?
Show me where Windows Phone is selling anything?
If they cant sell better than a previous product they have released, its a failure, even if they are making money.


We don't sell any windows 7 laptops anymore and haven't for a long time. Customers don't have a problem with it, the who ask for windows 7 are quick turn around when you show them 8 and that they can use it just like 7 jus with a bigger more organized star menu

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:24

Well, he is out, let's see if the new ceo that follows him doesn't trash windows and other divisions of what they currently are, because negativity right now is almost a synonim of MS. How awesome they were with windows 7 and xbox 360... all of that went to hell with windows 8 and xbox 1.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:25

 

And yet they are still having outstandingly good results...  Right...

According to whom? It's been well known arround everyone in MS that the board did not support him.. and they actually wanted to take him down few years back.

 

Errors and mistakes... empty promises and uneducated public statements have made him the laughing stock of MS.

 

Lets not mention the money he wasted on useless rebradning of several services, internal restructuring, and loss of direction, also the mobile phone that no-one wanted... yep vista as well... and I think the nail in the coffin was the surface.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:25

Show me where Windows 8 is outselling Windows 7?

 

Comparitive figures for the timeline of release against previous versions shows that they are actually pretty much level pegging.  7's initial sales were crud due to bad feeling after Vista.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:26

Its okay im just stirring people up lol


Ah, so you're just trolling? That's what you're saying ?

Funny, that's against the TOS though...

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:32

Show me where Windows 8 is outselling Windows 7?
Show me where Windows Phone is selling anything?
If they cant sell better than a previous product they have released, its a failure, even if they are making money.


What an utter load of bullocks

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:33

don't worry about it.. He won't stop arguing with you.

 

And you feel I should because you disagree?  Please learn how debate works.

 

They did make a lot of bad decisions..

 

They most certainly made some very high-profile unliked decisions.

 

According to whom?

 

I would suggest: Their accountants!

 

It's been well known arround everyone in MS that the board did not support him.. and they actually wanted to take him down few years back.

 

Fully aware of the supposed sentiment.  Never really been documented has it...  Not in any concrete way.

 

Lets not mention the money he wasted on useless rebradning of several services, internal restructuring, and loss of direction

 

Very much give you these ones!

 

also the mobile phone that no-one wanted...

 

MS HAVE to be part of the mobile market.  This generation may not be doing so well, but at least they are part of the industry.  I see WinPhone as a success in that they are at least now players.

 

yep vista as well...

 

Yeah, it was very poorly received.  I personally had no issue but don't dispute that there were issues.  I'd not wholly see Ballmer as the problem here though.

 

and I think the nail in the coffin was the surface.

 

I think it's done very well again in the same way as I judge Windows Phone.





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