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Apple Tries To Trademark The Word "Startup"


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Apple is attempting to trademark the word "startup", covering a range of products and services, in a bold application filed in Australia on 27 August.

 

The application -- first spotted by TM Watch -- was filed by the company's Cupertino headquarters alongside the Sydney branch of law firm Baker & Mckenzie. The application seeks to use the trademark in relation to retail store services; the maintenance, installation and repair of computer hardware and other devices; educational services, including classes, workshops and seminars, and the design and development of computer hardware and software. So pretty much everything Apple does then.

 

Apple has actually already filed for this trademark in 2011 in both China and the US. The company was granted a preliminary trademark pending a consultation period where people could object to the trademark. Not surprisingly, objections were filed. Apple has a window to respond to those objections in the US by 20 September.

 

The trademark application filed in Australia falls under the same international registration as the ones filed in the US and China. This allows Apple to potentially take advantage of the Madrid system, administered by the World Intellectual Property Organisation, whereby a company can register a trademark in one of the countries that signed the Madrid agreement and it will transfer easily to other countries.

 

While the classes covered by the trademark application are not comprehensive -- i.e. they only cover specific uses of the word startup -- there have been cases where the owner of a trademark with a big enough reputation can take action against dissimilar goods and services where they are trying to ride on the reputation of the mark. We saw this when Facebook tried to sue a teachers network called Teachbook.

 

There is lots of speculation about why Apple might be trying to trademark a word like "Startup", with some suggesting the company could be trying to disintermediate mobile operators and sell contracts to customers directly.

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Oh f*** off Apple.  Startup is a generic word in use by the entire industry, you thieving goits.

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Well there goes the "Startup" folder on windows that's been there for EVER.... </s>

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WTF, Apple. Just WTF.

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If people actually read the trademark, you'll see that they're trying to use it as a trademark for in-store services. Like they do with "Genius" and "one to one".

 

As far as I know, no company has used "Startup" in relation to this have they?

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**** off Apple

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As far as I know, no company has used "Startup" in relation to this have they?

 

Not sure.  Depends on what the objections others filed are about and Apple's response.

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So another frivolous trademark filing like when they tried trademarking "App Store" on the basis that it was short for apple store.

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Always surprises me how many people on the forum don't understand simply things like trademarks and copyrights. Fun fact, Apple has trademarked Apple. Going to complain or think fruit vendors will? That is not how trademarks work. Just because a word sounds the same, and is spelled the same, it doesn't mean it is actually the same as far as business is concerned. Based on what the application says, this is actually a valid trademark.

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If people actually read the trademark, you'll see that they're trying to use it as a trademark for in-store services. Like they do with "Genius" and "one to one".

 

As far as I know, no company has used "Startup" in relation to this have they?

How about this?

:D

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So another frivolous trademark filing like when they tried trademarking "App Store" on the basis that it was short for apple store.

That trademark was based on their application store being called App Store. The reason it's called App Store is because its short for Apple store and they sell apps, but that has nothing to do with the trademark application.

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How about this?

:D

Lacking from your video about the start menu... startup. That being said... ah the memories. I still need to try and boot 95 to my old iPad.

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That trademark was based on their application store being called App Store. The reason it's called App Store is because its short for Apple store and they sell apps, but that has nothing to do with the trademark application.

App short for Apple? I don't think that was what they meant because when they first pushed it was "Application Store" shortened to App because in OSX everything is .app and .app never stood for Apple so they continued the App model to the iOS stores

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They are trademarking the term Startup for a service they are offering, not the actual word start up, big difference. All this does is prevent other companies from using other similar services under that name. This doesn't mean anytime the word startup is used in something non contextual that the person will have to pay. 

 

Along the lines of the App store, people whined when Apple did this, since App was short for application. The thing though is that App Stores then were not in the same context as what Apple was doing. Now look everyone has an "App Store" but has to use a slightly different name.  

 

Also remember the current trademark system allows Apple to do this, if there is such a problem with it, then the system is what needs changing

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Always surprises me how many people on the forum don't understand simply things like trademarks and copyrights. Fun fact, Apple has trademarked Apple. Going to complain or think fruit vendors will? That is not how trademarks work. Just because a word sounds the same, and is spelled the same, it doesn't mean it is actually the same as far as business is concerned. Based on what the application says, this is actually a valid trademark.

 

"Oh, don't be so sure, Mr. President"

-- Premier Romanov, RA2

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8858333/Apple-takes-on-German-cafe-over-logo.html

 

When Christin Romer decided to open Apfelkind (Applechild) in a leafy and elegant suburb of Bonn she chose a logo she thought reflected the cafe's emphasis on children and wholesome fun.

Showing a red apple with a cut-out silhouette of a child in a hat, she had it placed on cups, cushions and furniture ready for the cafe's opening in May.

All went well until last week when a letter bearing the logo of the American computer giant arrived in the post, claiming her logo could confuse Apple customers, and demanded that she withdraw her Apfelkind trademark application.

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Bloody Granny Smith company.

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App short for Apple? I don't think that was what they meant because when they first pushed it was "Application Store" shortened to App because in OSX everything is .app and .app never stood for Apple so they continued the App model to the iOS stores

Go back and look at Apple's trademark suit against Amazon. That was one of the excuses Apple used in trying to get a ruling against Amazon's App store name.

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Actually that confirms what I just said. There is a difference between an apple and the trademark Apple.

 

I'm not arguing. I just like that quote. :rofl:

 

It is a valid trademark, of course. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't have exactly the best history dealing with them. In my mind, unsuccessful or frivolous trademark ligitation attempts by applicants should be strongly considered by USPTO and similar instances when reviewing an application that is, its intended use aside, a generic word and widely used elsewhere, especially in related industries, at that.

 

Edit: Also, Skydrive and BSkyB kaboodle leaves some food for thought about trademarking generic words in distantly related, but not quite, services.

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How about this?

:D

did I just spy a desktop and CRT monitor being used in a coffee shop?

 

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If they really want to make some money they need to trademark the term "F**k off Apple".

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wow just wow 

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come on Apple- be original -

don't trademark Startup

sTartuP

 

that way they can use the abbreviation TP

 

- I also think that I remember  that there was Dos disks labeled Startup  - Back in the days when you had to use 5 1/4 

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Typical Apple crap. This is like them seeing someone with a barrel of water and they want to trademark it because they put 1 drop of kool aid flavoring in it. Now they don't want anyone using water or barrels and wants kool aid man to pay royalties on his burst thru the wall "Oh Yeah" thing.

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It would be funny if Apple tried copyrighting the word Microsoft :laugh:

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