RAM Vs. CPU

[psionicinversion]

How do you know he is a kid ?

 

I dont but he said hes allowed to spend $200 on his computer for xmas so i assume its a xmas present from his parents... call me sherlock holmes :P

 

That 650 wont be so good i think. Id get at least a 660 if your going the nvidia route but then again guess it depends on the PSU. Make sure it has the 6 pin pci-e connectors, the 660 only needs 1x 6 pin pci-e connector and recommended 450 watt psu

[MontyPython]

okay so the games i play are bf3 and i plan to be playing bf4 and crisis too at 1920 x 1080 with max settings 

[MontyPython]

okay i have a HP Pavilion p7-1233w....now you guys know everything so you can actually help me. :)

[Mindovermaster Moderator]

Umm, you'll need a new PSU. You can't run any gfx card with a 300W...

[Snake89]

Right now since the A8-5500 is a socket FM2, i would upgrade that to a A10-6800k, and OC your ram. An maybe next year when you save up some cash then buy a new graphic card.

[philcruicks]

When looking at graphics cards, generally look at the 2nd number in the model (nVidia), 1st is effectively the year of production and the 2nd is the actual model)

So for eg. a GTX 650 is not as good as a GTX 560

 

use something like http://www.anandtech.com/Bench/CPU/2 to compare the cards your looking at.

 

I wouldn't recommend the 650 you posted...even my (2 years older) 460 out-performs it.

 

If you are limited on budget an AMD card will be better value for money than nVidia, but can lack things like Physx (however BF(at least 3) doesn;t support Physx so check if the games you play support it...if not then go AMD for sure as your limited on budget.

 

Similar rules apply for AMD cards, 2nd and 3rd number are more important than 1st.

[MontyPython]

So basically i am gathering that there is know way to get a videocard this uear and that i will need to spend my money on a new processor and ram?

[MontyPython]

what is a psu....what is oc'ing ram,how do i do i do it....is that a10-6800k a processor, is it compatible...will this let me play video games without as much lag?

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

what is a psu....what is oc'ing ram,how do i do i do it....is that a10-6800k a processor, is it compatible...will this let me play video games without as much lag?

PSU = Power Supply Unit. The PSU in your PC might be too weak to power a dedicated graphics card, hence the suggestions of upgrading it.

 

I wouldn't worry about overclocking (OC'ing) your RAM or upgrading your processor yet. Both ought to be able to handle BF4. The graphics card is what makes the difference in your case.

[MontyPython]

Okay is there any specific PSU that you recommend for a video card. Also why is it to weak to power a card....what is the unit that measure the power output...and how do i know what i need to power a video card?

[MontyPython]

how is this RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, New Version with Build-in LED Fan On/Off Switch

[Mindovermaster Moderator]

I looked at the spec page for your HP system, it says for PSU : 300W. Watts is what you are looking at.

 

Considering a gfx card, adding up your other pc items, it requires more power than 300W. Look at minimum requirement off the Nvidia site. For that 650:

 

Minimum System Power Requirement 400W

 

That Raidmax is not a reputable brand. get something from Corsair or Antec:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

 

Please use the edit button on the bottom right of your post. Do not double or triple post.

[MontyPython]

So then what Video card could i get witth those staying in 200$ if i get the CORSAIR GS700 700W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready. 

 

so basically i have about 100$

 

how about

 

 

ASUS GT640-1GD5-L GeForce GT 640 1GB 64-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

[zhangm Supervisor]

If you're going to purchase near the holidays, remember that prices gets much more volatile after Thanksgiving. Given that, there's little sense in spending over 100$ on a PSU (that is to say, retail prices), given that your system can only host limited upgrades. You're obviously not pulling more than 250 W in your current configuration with that bargain-basement OEM PSU. Throw in a current generation video card and you still won't top out over 500 W unless you're deliberately trying to fry your hardware.

[Noir Angel]

okay so the games i play are bf3 and i plan to be playing bf4 and crisis too at 1920 x 1080 with max settings 

 

Sorry but no 200 buck video card is going to do that, especially crysis. You'll probably be looking at mid ranging visuals at that price point, especially with those AMD APUs which are pretty weak in comparison to normal desktop CPUs

[MontyPython]

okay so let's make it basic.... how can i improve my gameing performace, as far as fps....i have 200$....i have a HP Pavilion p7 1233w.....what should i buy :)

[Mindovermaster Moderator]

I would get an entirely new system, because even that computer with a good graphic card, isn't gonna work well.

[bikeman25]

I have an AMD APU System also, AMD A6-3620 Quad Core, with Radeon 6530D, when I need more performance later gonna use AMD Dual Graphics feature, and increase the performance  a bit

 

More info here

 

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/dual-graphics/Pages/dual-graphics.aspx#3

 

Most likely will still need Power supply upgrade though

 

Then it combine power of the APU video chip and also Power of the Discrete card as well