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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:24

WASHINGTON (AP) — The National Security Agency, working with the British government, has secretly been unraveling encryption technology that billions of Internet users rely upon to keep their electronic messages and confidential data safe from prying eyes, according to published reports based on internal U.S. government documents.

The NSA has bypassed or altogether cracked much of the digital encryption used by businesses and everyday Web users, according to reports Thursday in The New York Times, Britain's Guardian newspaper and the nonprofit news website ProPublica. The reports describe how the NSA invested billions of dollars since 2000 to make nearly everyone's secrets available for government consumption.

In doing so, the NSA built powerful supercomputers to break encryption codes and partnered with unnamed technology companies to insert "back doors" into their software, the reports said. Such a practice would give the government access to users' digital information before it was encrypted and sent over the Internet.

"For the past decade, NSA has led an aggressive, multipronged effort to break widely used Internet encryption technologies," according to a 2010 briefing document about the NSA's accomplishments meant for its UK counterpart, Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ. Security experts told the news organizations such a code-breaking practice would ultimately undermine Internet security and leave everyday Web users vulnerable to hackers.

The revelations stem from documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who sought asylum in Russia this summer. His leaks, first published by the Guardian, revealed a massive effort by the U.S. government to collect and analyze all sorts of digital data that Americans send at home and around the world.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:41

<<< waits for the "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear" crowd

 

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:49

<<< waits for the "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear" crowd

 

:rolleyes:

Why wait? We have heard it plenty. How about wait for something like why that sentiment is not correct? Nothing I do online is illegal so why do I care that they are wasting their time reading my email, facebook, etc. Nobody has every given a legitimate response without resorting to slippery slope logic.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:51

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:57

Why wait? We have heard it plenty. How about wait for something like why that sentiment is not correct? Nothing I do online is illegal so why do I care that they are wasting their time reading my email, facebook, etc. Nobody has every given a legitimate response without resorting to slippery slope logic.

 

Nothing you do online is illegal? Thats fine, but they also have the means to crack the security around your online banking, or online shopping, or whatever else you have that is meant to be secure.

 

If you dont seem to mind this, and have no issue with the NSA or other agencies having access to your finances etc.. please post here you full bank details, sort code, account number, banking password, secret questions and answers and step off.

 

Its the very people who fail to follow the "slippery slope" logic that dont take these revelations as seriously as they should. Why ? What is it about the use of "slippery slope" logic that you dont like ? Do you not believe the extreme outcomes postulated by such logic would ever happen ? If not why not? Do you believe those that have this cracking ability will suddenly grow a conscience and say "Oh you know what, we've gone too far, lets pull back?"

 

Not a chance! They will keep going and going as they are power mad, and are quite literally above the law, as any checks and balances or whatever fancy phrase you like has utterly failed, and has been used as a smoke screen to placate the masses for years. We then get responses such as yours writ large from people who either dont care, or cant comprehend just how bad things could get from an unchecked malevolent entity such as a government or a security agency.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 13:59

Why I dont put personal/sensitive info I dont want other to see online.  I dont have anything to hide, but some things are just private and shouldnt out there up for grabs.  And I have said it before, doesnt matter where you put your data online...if someone wants it bad enough, they will get it.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 14:01

If you dont seem to mind this, and have no issue with the NSA or other agencies having access to your finances etc.. please post here you full bank details, sort code, account number, banking password, secret questions and answers and step off.

 

There is a difference between spying on someone, and then someone using your details to royally screw you over.  Monitoring vs Theft.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 14:05

I'm still waiting for the Big Secret that was supposedly revealed.

 

We have known for a long time that the NSA has been intercepting, decrypting, any and all means of communication.

 

None of this is really News.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 14:05

People don"t seem to get that these network admins at the NSA has access to everything. They could steal your info just for their personal gain. It's not just about what the agency does with your info. Hell, they can even create a false paper trail over people they don't like and they can screw them over.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 14:06

Nothing you do online is illegal? Thats fine, but they also have the means to crack the security around your online banking, or online shopping, or whatever else you have that is meant to be secure.

 

If you dont seem to mind this, and have no issue with the NSA or other agencies having access to your finances etc.. please post here you full bank details, sort code, account number, banking password, secret questions and answers and step off.

 

Its the very people who fail to follow the "slippery slope" logic that dont take these revelations as seriously as they should. Why ? What is it about the use of "slippery slope" logic that you dont like ? Do you not believe the extreme outcomes postulated by such logic would ever happen ? If not why not? Do you believe those that have this cracking ability will suddenly grow a conscience and say "Oh you know what, we've gone too far, lets pull back?"

 

Not a chance! They will keep going and going as they are power mad, and are quite literally above the law, as any checks and balances or whatever fancy phrase you like has utterly failed, and has been used as a smoke screen to placate the masses for years. We then get responses such as yours writ large from people who either dont care, or cant comprehend just how bad things could get from an unchecked malevolent entity such as a government or a security agency.

So now you are claiming the NSA is stealing my bank account info and emptying my accounts? Got proof? I monitor my bank daily and since they have that info, they must be stealing it right? No changes to my bank account yet. I think I am good.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 14:07

People don"t seem to get that these network admins at the NSA has access to everything. They could steal your info just for their personal gain. It's not just about what the agency does with your info. Hell, they can even create a false paper trail over people they don't like and they can screw them over.

Got proof of this happening? We will gladly wait for conspiracy nuts to prove this. Until then, stop crying wolf. There is a reason people stopped listening to this trash quickly and it wasn't just Miley Cyrus twerking.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 15:23

Got proof of this happening? We will gladly wait for conspiracy nuts to prove this. Until then, stop crying wolf. There is a reason people stopped listening to this trash quickly and it wasn't just Miley Cyrus twerking.

Proof ? Are you for real ? You can only get proof from the source. Thats what Snowden did to a degree

 

Btw, the creating false papertrail thing has been mentioned even in some of the mainstream media .. so do a little bit of research



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 15:48

Proof ? Are you for real ? You can only get proof from the source. Thats what Snowden did to a degree

 

Btw, the creating false papertrail thing has been mentioned even in some of the mainstream media .. so do a little bit of research

So, you admit your crying wolf with exactly 0 proof. FYI, my bank account has no missing money. Try again.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 15:56

So, you admit your crying wolf with exactly 0 proof. FYI, my bank account has no missing money. Try again.

What the hell are you talking about. Who says anyone will be missing money

 

If that happens, it's because you were targeted for a reason. And money will be the least of your concerns. Pretty sure they don<t go after money anyway.

 

Stop acting like an idiot.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 15:59

What the hell are you talking about. You're crazy. Who says anyone will be missing money

Personal insults? Is that really needed? Read the conversation you injected yourself into. You don't know the context, you don't have any proof, and you are just crying wolf at this point and actually surprised nobody believes you. Stop the name calling or I will report you. You said yourself for personal gain. Do tell, if not to take money, what personal gain is there for having my bank account number? Try again, no insults this time.





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