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Arctic freezes early, IPCC under fire

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10294082/Global-warming-No-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists

A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling.

There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.

In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.

The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.

A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.

If correct, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after the BBC predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.

Despite the original forecasts, major climate research centres now accept that there has been a

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They really don't know what's going on do they?

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Oh no. This must mean that we aren't doing the environment. *sprays aerosol just because* /s

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So we just keep spending hundreds of $billions (or $trillions) on what could be a faulty premise instead of putting it where it might do actual good?

You might not be old enough to remember when many of these same people had the world convinced an ice age was coming, but I certainly am.

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I'm getting fed up with people on Facebook and such posting pictures of the Ice Caps in Winter, and then a photo of the Ice Caps 10 years later, but in Summer with them melting. 

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And those of us questioning the "science" about the Global Warming/Climate Change farce are the nutter, yet SCIENCE has proven us to be right all along, wonder what the new scare will be 

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So I guess the Pro Scientists and Politicians are going to claim all these Carbon reduction laws have had an incredible effect on the problem and are helping to resolving the issue.

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Enough said.

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Enough said.

 

Proof it was all a big conspiracy is all I see, I remember the reactions of those "scientists" to anyone questioning them, and yet they were all lying the whole time

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People should worry more about how we are polluting this planet, but instead they worry about CO2 emission only. Plants and trees breath CO2 ...  Of course reducing emissions from cars and industries is still a plus

 

But all the chemicals,radiation and oil we have in the ocean and lakes, that's what makes me worried the most.

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Enough said.

 

Is that rejected Global Warming in General? Because I reject "Man-Made" Global Warming, not Global Warming completely.

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Is that rejected Global Warming in General? Because I reject "Man-Made" Global Warming, not Global Warming completely.

Man-made global warming. 

 

Back in 1989 I visited the German Climate Computing Centre in Hamburg with school. Then already the climate scientists had calculated that the warming climate since the 1950s was more than likely man-made. Ever since better computer hardware and more refined simulations have but confirmed it - man-made global warming is a fact.

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 man-made global warming is a fact.

 

That's the beauty of Science. Nothing is a fact, they're just theories, our best guess at the time with the evidence at hand, a single piece of additional evidence can destroy an entire accepted theory in an instant. We are still technically in an Ice Age.

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The only thing causing "global warming" is all this heated debate!

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It doesn't really matter what your views on climate change are the fact we are polluting less is a positive thing.

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It doesn't really matter what your views on climate change are the fact we are polluting less is a positive thing.

Yes, it is. The problem nowadays is that in other countries pollution is on the increase - look at the People's Republic of China or India.

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Yes, it is. The problem nowadays is that in other countries pollution is on the increase - look at the People's Republic of China or India.

 

Blame the same people that lied about it from the get go, they also allowed the waivers to international regulations for those countries

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The only thing causing "global warming" is all this heated debate!

 

And your Titans create cyclones of such an extremely low air pressure that despite their certain electrical energy consumption radiated as heat there's a net loss of thermal energy in the near vicinity :laugh:

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go watch the video "The great global warming swindle" it's all about money taxpayer money going to socalled scientists who claim their studying climate change 

 

I don't disagree with climate change I just don't accept it's us causing it it's been shown that the earth goes through warming and cooling events globally it's how the earth stabilises itself 

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Yes, it is. The problem nowadays is that in other countries pollution is on the increase - look at the People's Republic of China or India.

 

 

We like to think we're polluting less in actual fact we haven't stopped we just send it to other countries to deal with 

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One report

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Whether or not you "believe in" climate change, the actual fact is that there are a number of man-made pollutants which affect the environment. You can debate whether we know clearly what that affect is, but "climate change skeptics" have absolutely zero evidence for the claim that humans have no affect at all on the environment. So with that in mind, is it not wise to eliminate the emission of such pollutants rather than walking ignorantly into a situation with potentially catastrophic consequences?

 

If science is wrong and we stop polluting but it turns out that man-made pollutants aren't destroying life on this planet, then the worst that has happened is that we've wrongly invested our economy into reducing pollution, rather than investing it into a slightly higher (than our already quite high) quality of life.

If science is correct and we ignore all the warnings and don't stop polluting, then the worst that can happen within just a couple generations is 2m sea-level rise will result in cities populated by hundreds of millions become uninhabitable, mass species extinction from habitat destruction, increasing cost of accessing food and clean water, increasing cost of healthcare, increasing human conflict over dwindling resources, and so on.

 

How foolish are we not to insure ourselves against this?

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Whether or not you "believe in" climate change, the actual fact is that there are a number of man-made pollutants which affect the environment. You can debate whether we know clearly what that affect is, but "climate change skeptics" have absolutely zero evidence for the claim that humans have no affect at all on the environment. So with that in mind, is it not wise to eliminate the emission of such pollutants rather than walking ignorantly into a situation with potentially catastrophic consequences?

 

If science is wrong and we stop polluting but it turns out that man-made pollutants aren't destroying life on this planet, then the worst that has happened is that we've wrongly invested our economy into reducing pollution, rather than investing it into a slightly higher (than our already quite high) quality of life.

If science is correct and we ignore all the warnings and don't stop polluting, then the worst that can happen within just a couple generations is 2m sea-level rise will result in cities populated by hundreds of millions become uninhabitable, mass species extinction from habitat destruction, increasing cost of accessing food and clean water, increasing cost of healthcare, increasing human conflict over dwindling resources, and so on.

 

How foolish are we not to insure ourselves against this?

Regardless of the objective, it makes sense to look into ways of generating energy that do not create pollutants, since most of these are fossil fuels. Having a renewable energy source makes sense.

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The climate is always changing, whether it be because of man-made global warming or something else (it is in fact many factors), you still need to plan and adapt to those changes.

 

Climate Change != Global Warming, but is one of the many contributors to the changing climate.

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If the repercussion of Politicians (or whoever) lining their gold-rimmed, silk pant pockets is an environment with less toxic emissions and/or vulture-like resource abuse then I'm completely fine with this. One can argue the validity of Global Warming, but if you think treating the environment like we do is perfectly fine for the Planet, and our future within it, then you're an idiot.

 

I'll gladly make a lot of people rich if that helps the Planet, and if you ask me, they deserve it.

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