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#76 DocM

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:20

Update from the 11:00 news.

He had been released, and his soon to be ex-wife has admitted she "embelished" things in the 911 call etc. AND never saw a gun.

Classify this one under deranged ex-spouse syndrome.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:43

Update from the 11:00 news.

He had been released, and his soon to be ex-wife has admitted she "embelished" things in the 911 call etc. AND never saw a gun.

Classify this one under deranged ex-spouse syndrome.

 

Or she was coerced to change her story.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:03

By who? The cops or prosecutors? They wouldn't do that unless there were problems in her story. Let's also not forget her recent perjury conviction.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:42

If this wasn't the ZimZam no one would be hearing about it.

 

If he hadn't shot an unarmed teen we wouldn't be hearing about it. Regardless, routine speeding tickets are not equivalent to being detained in domestic violence disputes, especially when it's not your first.

 

The guy was screwed up before the Martin incident, and continues to be that way after. My question is, what exactly does he do in life? Career? Education? Since becoming an adult, he seems to just be into some ###### or another.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:40

[quote name="thomastmc" post="595934175" timestamp="1378785764"]Ya, I'm sure Manitoba is a really hard province... You're really sensitive about this, are you in the Indian Posse? Can you not tell when someone is jerking you around with those street smarts you learned in the school of hard knocks that are the streets of Manitoba? (Nice line about Walter Cronkite, but you're also wrong to assume that the only city I have to reference any other city by is Kansas City. Again, what you think and all the possibilities of why you might be wrong allude you, and you're wrong). 
 
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Yes actually Manitoba isn't a friendly place to live in some parts. Winnipeg was the murder capital for a looooong time.


if you're going to make assumptions about me I'll more than gladly make assumptions about you.
And just keep repeating that I'm wrong. Maybe somehow one day it might actually be true.


I think you've lost what your point is somewhere in the "relatability"...
 
"Whining like babies because you didn't get your way"... Nice.
 
No, Zimmerman wasn't beating his wife, he was just beating his father-in-law, destroying his wife's property, and intimidating her into thinking she was in danger...
 
Your argument is that what Zimmerman is going through is an excuse for his violent behavior towards his family, and I disagree. Maybe you should read your posts again.
 

I never said its an excuse. maybe you should reread. I said:
His life is stressful enough without people like you shoving ###### down everyone's throats and trying to incite hatred against him. if he beat his father in law, let the ######er rot. but he didn't as proven by the fact that no charges were laid.... ah duuuurrrr.

 
You said that my opinion wasn't my own.
 

no. I said that your opinion was fed to you by the media, it's still your opinion. That would be understandable if not accepted. if you came to that conclusion on your own then you must not have actually watched the trial.
 

Anyways... You've made it clear how you see this, as taking sides and winning and losing, like it's a game. I don't see it that way, and I don't think you can have a constructive conversation about any topic if that's the paradigm you come to a conversation with.

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not everything you win or lose is game. like war for instance. but you keep believing that no one is right unless they share your exact viewpoint.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:40

Or she was coerced to change her story.

 embellished means exactly that. He probably did not pull a gun, but everyone knows when you want the police to hurry up and come, mention a gun. She knows he has one, and clearly isn't afraid to use it, lol. Embellishing doesn't make her deranged, most people embellish when they want help to come in a hurry, she could be charged though.

 

She probably didn't change her story, just removed the embellishment.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 13:13

Poor George. He can't seem to stay out of trouble. 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 13:25

If he hadn't shot an unarmed teen we wouldn't be hearing about it. Regardless, routine speeding tickets are not equivalent to being detained in domestic violence disputes, especially when it's not your first.

 

The guy was screwed up before the Martin incident, and continues to be that way after. My question is, what exactly does he do in life? Career? Education? Since becoming an adult, he seems to just be into some **** or another.

Or, alternatively, if he hadn't been assaulted by a guy he wouldn't have had to shoot him.

 

Now the side I just presented to you is the one that was shown to be accurate in court. It's why Trayvon Martin was convicted of a crime and Zimmerman wasn't.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 13:29

By who? The cops or prosecutors? They wouldn't do that unless there were problems in her story. Let's also not forget her recent perjury conviction.

Definitely not the cops. The police department there is known for harassing him for many other things like protesting their actions. If anything, they would have encouraged her to keep the story.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 13:34

And for the record - in this mornings news report cops said he did not have his gun, so her misinformation level goes up several notches.

Now we know the cop-prosecutors were faced with a complaining witness who had been caught in a bald faced lie, and who had a recent perjury conviction. No way they'd pursue it.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 13:45

Or, alternatively, if he hadn't been assaulted by a guy he wouldn't have had to shoot him.

 

Now the side I just presented to you is the one that was shown to be accurate in court. It's why Trayvon Martin was convicted of a crime and Zimmerman wasn't.

 I must have missed that trial, the one where Martin was convicted of assaulting Zimmerman.

 

It will be senseless to retry it here, he got off because of the law, several jurors believed he was guilty of murder but based on the law, they could not say in his mind he was not in fear of his life. That is the only thing that was shown in court.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 14:04

 I must have missed that trial, the one where Martin was convicted of assaulting Zimmerman.

 

It will be senseless to retry it here, he got off because of the law, several jurors believed he was guilty of murder but based on the law, they could not say in his mind he was not in fear of his life. That is the only thing that was shown in court.

He didn't "get off" because he wasn't guilty of anything to "get off" of. When you are choking on your own blood, you tell us what you are thinking and if defending yourself at that point is murder. There are several witnesses that even said he was choking on his own blood while his head was being bashed into the ground. If you are going to ignore the facts that all the evidence prove, don't bother replying.

 

FYI the interviews of the jurors show they thought he was guilty of manslaughter, but not of murder. Manslaughter is legal under self defense and no longer classified as manslaughter, which is why he isn't guilty of anything but defending himself. The one juror that was trying to have him executed had an extreme bias and she even admitted it because of her 8 kids. She viewed Trayvon as her own child the entire time and didn't keep her bias out of her thoughts, all things she admitted to.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 14:12

Trayvon Martin was convicted of a crime and Zimmerman wasn't

 

End of conversation.  Anything else is 100% moot.  The courts decided.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 14:14

 I must have missed that trial, the one where Martin was convicted of assaulting Zimmerman.

 

It will be senseless to retry it here, he got off because of the law, several jurors believed he was guilty of murder but based on the law, they could not say in his mind he was not in fear of his life. That is the only thing that was shown in court.

You obviously did miss it...it's what actually happened.

 

Convictions:

Trayvon Martin: aggravated assault & battery, intent to kill or maim

 

It's a never ending source of "WTF" moments when people like you come into threads like this and you don't even bother to have a cursory knowledge of the most basic facts. You watch a few minute recap on CNN every night and read the messages of semi-literate fools on Twitter and think you have a clue. You then think you're equipped to make comments.

 

Seriously...actually know what you're talking about before you engage your keyboard.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 14:20

ok she claims all this after LYING about the families finances.. oh yeah.. she's really believable... lovely family