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#1 Ironman273

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:04

So I'd like to upgrade my Surface Pro to 8.1 but my understanding is that you can only keep your personal files, no software.  If my Surface came with Office 2013 how do I keep it on the Surface?  I ran Belarc Advisor and got my Windows Key but it doesn't show Office.



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You have to use the Product Key from MSDN, otherwise the installer won't accept it. Kind of weird honestly how they set that up because 8.1 can activate with a 8 key.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:08

I used 8.1 Pro from my TechNet on my Surface Pro and could keep everything.  I think it might only apply if you have Pro + Media Center for the clean install.  I've upgraded my three 8 computers to 8.1 from TechNet and got to keep files, settings and apps each time



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:14

I used 8.1 Pro from my TechNet on my Surface Pro and could keep everything.  I think it might only apply if you have Pro + Media Center for the clean install.  I've upgraded my three 8 computers to 8.1 from TechNet and got to keep files, settings and apps each time

That's good to know!  How did you do it?  Burned disc, USB drive, mounted ISO?



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:39

I just mounted the ISO by double clicking it and then ran setup.exe, put in my product key when asked (upgrade from Store in Oct will use the key already on the surface) and let it install.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:55

So 8.1 was officially release by MS...Its the same one that leaked correct?



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:00

Since I had downloaded it on my home PC I decided to try that.  I got my Windows key using ProduKey but when 8.1 asked me for my key it said that one was invalid... :(

 

Edit:  And the same thing is happening on my Surface.

 

Edit #2:  It just hit me... I have to use the key from MSDN.  Since these are my personal computers I'd rather wait until I can use the Store upgrade to use my embedded keys...  Oh well...



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:18   Best Answer

You have to use the Product Key from MSDN, otherwise the installer won't accept it. Kind of weird honestly how they set that up because 8.1 can activate with a 8 key.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:53

So you can do an in place upgrade with the RTM iso?  I rather not do a full reinstall



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 17:30

Firstly before anyone says that the following is not ok to do I would like to point out that it is totally fine to do this and it is documented by Microsoft on TechNet at the following link http://technet.micro...y/hh824952.aspx

 

You have to use the Product Key from MSDN, otherwise the installer won't accept it. Kind of weird honestly how they set that up because 8.1 can activate with a 8 key.

 

That isn't totally correct. The ISO images for 8.1 RTM do not include an ei.cfg file in the sources directory however you can add one so that you are not prompted for a key until after installation at which time you can use your Windows 8 product key to activate.

 

If you want to do this simply use Notepad to create a text file with the following content and save it as ei.cfg in the sources folder on your install media.

 

If you have a "core" (that is not Windows 8 Pro) license use the following

[EditionID]
Core
[Channel]
Retail
[VL]
0

If you have a Professional license use the following

[EditionID]
Professional
[Channel]
Retail
[VL]
0

When you boot up to install Windows 8.1 it will now automatically know the version you are using so will not ask you for a product key before installation however on first boot after the install has completed it will ask you for a key however you are able to click "skip" on this screen and then enter your key when you are ready from the activation wizard.

 

Hope this helps :)



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 18:55

Well, I tried with the ei.cfg file.

 

Good news: I passed the check for the key!

Bad news: The only two options I have for install is keep personal files or keep nothing.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 20:17

Well, I tried with the ei.cfg file.

 

Good news: I passed the check for the key!

Bad news: The only two options I have for install is keep personal files or keep nothing.

 

I believe the only supported way to "upgrade" and keep *everything* is to use the Windows Store update when it comes out on October 18th. I believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft were holding back on the release of the RTM to MSDN as there does not appear to be a way to do an upgrade from the RTM media and keep all your apps and settings.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 16:12

I believe the only supported way to "upgrade" and keep *everything* is to use the Windows Store update when it comes out on October 18th. I believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft were holding back on the release of the RTM to MSDN as there does not appear to be a way to do an upgrade from the RTM media and keep all your apps and settings.

That's what I had originally assumed but martog apparently "upgraded" his install without losing everything.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 16:21

I have Windows 8 Pro + Media Centre installed and when I did my upgrade to 8.1, it gave me all the options. I obviously picked save everything option and it did just that. I then re installed Media Centre with my key and everything is working ok.

 

Not sure why some people are having a problem with 8.1 not giving them the options to save programs and settings, strange, could it be they may have the preview already installed? if not then I have no idea.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 23:40

That must be it.  I'm going from 8.1 preview to 8.1.  Probably going from 8 to 8.1 allows you to keep everything.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 18:09

I upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 and for the most part everything stayed the same.  I had to reinstall the drivers for my phone and vmware but that's about it





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