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Here is a collection of media outlets blaming games for the tragedy that befell a US Navy base"

 

 

 

Fox News Highlights Navy Ship Yard Killer's Video Game 'Obsession'

 

In a new report, the conservative news network tries to link video games to gunman Aaron Alexis, who killed 12 people before police shot him dead at the Navy Shipyard in Washington where he worked earlier this week. While the report goes into great detail about the gunman's troubled past - including issues with mental illness and multiple run-ins with police, the focus of the Fox story is about his video game habits.

 

U.S. law enforcement officials said that Alexis had been suffering a host of serious mental issues, including paranoia and a sleep disorder, and that he had been treated regularly since August by the Veterans Administration for his mental problems. His father at one time told detectives in Seattle that his son had "anger management problems" related to post-traumatic stress brought on by the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Police also said that he had been "hearing voices."

But instead of focusing on all of these problems Alexis had, Fox News leads with a couple of quotes about Alexis' gaming habits:

 

Dallas Morning News report points out that Alexis had faced charges related to guns in both Fort Worth, and Seattle in the past, but this is what Fox News is interested in:

 

"One of 34-year-old Aaron Alexis

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Everything is about the gun but not the person. We blame every other crime on the person but when it comes to a crime done with a gun people don't look at the person they look at the gun as if the gun had a mind of its own and done the shooting. Perhaps the media should look at the people doing these crimes and not the object. And I think the Obama administration needs to look at the people and not the guns. Every mass shooting that happened recently have all been from mentally ill people..

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RE: Hasselbeck's suggestion for a video game registry: I thought conservatives were for smaller governments and less interference with people's lives? Surely having people register their gaming purchases flies in the face of that?

 

I'd say it was only sarcasm on her part, but I know better.

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You act as if it can't be a contributing factor.

 

I watched a study on Children associated with violent video games and they were in general more prone to outbursts, anxiety, inattentiveness and outright violence than the control group. Not by a little bit, but by a massive margin. It's a chicken-egg study for sure, but the results are worth noting at the very least.

 

Do you honestly think exposing people to violence won't have negative repercussions?

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You act as if it can't be a contributing factor.

 

I watched a study on Children associated with violent video games and they were in general more prone to outbursts, anxiety, inattentiveness and outright violence than the control group. Not by a little bit, but by a massive margin. It's a chicken-egg study for sure, but the results are worth noting at the very least.

 

Do you honestly think exposing people to violence won't have negative repercussions?

 

Can you show us the study? Beyond that, children shouldn't be playing violent video games anyway. GTA and CoD aren't intended for children. Neither is Pulp Fiction or Slayer albums.

 

 

This tragedy seems to be the result of extreme mental instability and easy access to weapons. 

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Lol, I love the media, it is never about the story its only about ratings and what their corporate agenda wants.

 

You see this every night, they have stupid articles about celebrities that pull rating and nothing about the true issues, in the community because it makes people feel bad and they stop watching, which equals less ratings and less money. 

 

However I don't understand the hate on video games, why are the media so against it? Is it they are trying to push the argument away from the gun control issue or is it they are trying to collapse the video game industry to push people back to TV and Movies for entertainment. Is it that a lot of media outlets are run buy an older generation which dont understand video games and find them a waist of time. 

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Can you show us the study? 

 

I wish I could, it was a good show. But it was on TV and I don't recall the name. If I find before I forget this thread exists I'll let you know.

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You act as if it can't be a contributing factor.

 

I watched a study on Children associated with violent video games and they were in general more prone to outbursts, anxiety, inattentiveness and outright violence than the control group. Not by a little bit, but by a massive margin. It's a chicken-egg study for sure, but the results are worth noting at the very least.

 

Do you honestly think exposing people to violence won't have negative repercussions?

 

There has been studies on children who watch even the most child friendly V shows that have these same issues, its a lot about less human interaction apparently. I'm not counting out that violent video games cause some issues, but its a leap from playing video games to shooting somebody.

 

The same leap as saying that the gun is at fault not the shooter. The issue is with the shooter not the gun or the games he played. 

 

Health care and aid could have stopped this issue. This should be a call for more funding for mental health solutions. Not a cry for bans or control.

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They have sick minds...  sick people out there...  and have no control themselves...

 

could be from stress, depressions, etc.

 

They should go to rehab or therapy so they could clean themselves up for better life instead of going downhill.

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They have sick minds...  sick people out there...  and have no control themselves...

 

could be from stress, depressions, etc.

 

They should go to rehab or therapy so they could clean themselves up for better life instead of going downhill.

Games are therapy for many people.  It's a lot cheaper than the real thing.

 

Any obsession can be dangerous, but that Fox is still pointing fingers makes me laugh considering their 'experts' have always been obsessed and/or clueless.

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Beyond that, children shouldn't be playing violent video games anyway.

 

 

 

Why not? I mean, if they can't be a contributing factor to later violence, then what's the harm?

 

You can't have it both ways. The very notion that for some people, violence from video games, movies, and/or music, has no effect on the human brain, is ludicrous. The average US child will have viewed over 16,000 simulated murders by the time they are 18.

 

And we wonder why these mass shootings keep happening. There have always been mentally unstable people, but not until the time of TV and video games did these events occur with such regularity. This isn't rocket science.

 

Couple that with a culture of guns and this is what you get. I don't know what the answer is, but as I said, for some folks, video games can be damaging.

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Why not? I mean, if they can't be a contributing factor to later violence, then what's the harm?

 

You can't have it both ways. The very notion that for some people, violence from video games, movies, and/or music, has no effect on the human brain, is ludicrous. The average US child will have viewed over 16,000 simulated murders by the time they are 18.

 

And we wonder why these mass shootings keep happening. There have always been mentally unstable people, but not until the time of TV and video games did these events occur with such regularity. This isn't rocket science.

 

Couple that with a culture of guns and this is what you get. I don't know what the answer is, but as I said, for some folks, video games can be damaging.

 

http://www.wanttoknow.info/g/violent_crime_rates_reduction

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Let's just ban all media, be it audio, visual, and interactive!

 

I know I'm putting myself right into the firing line for this but enough is enough

First they blamed music, then movies, now games, what they going to try and ban next?

 

Want to reduce crime, get more involved with your community, share thoughts and stop being a patronising jerk, you'll find some common ground to build on.

 

(sorry about the rant, it just makes me think that this is just another witch-hunt)

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The ignorant will always be among us. 

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its a truly a combination of many many things with each having a small (but significant) contribution. Think of the current state of the USA as the perfect storm. Lax gun control, violent upbringing (games, real life etc), huge wealth gaps, racism and anger still behind peoples smiling faces, rampant drug use, failing economy, aging infrastructure, extreme media portals, countless religious sects, etc etc.... how can anything like that NOT have millions of crazies

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its a truly a combination of many many things with each having a small (but significant) contribution. Think of the current state of the USA as the perfect storm. Lax gun control, violent upbringing (games, real life etc), huge wealth gaps, racism and anger still behind peoples smiling faces, rampant drug use, failing economy, aging infrastructure, extreme media portals, countless religious sects, etc etc.... how can anything like that NOT have millions of crazies

 

That is true but we have millions more of average, normal people who go through every day not killing someone and not making the news headlines, Unfortunately, it's the crazies that make the news and most non-Americans assume everyone here is like that. Not to take away from your points, because you make some good ones. We do have our problems, but so does everyone else.

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That is true but we have millions more of average, normal people who go through every day not killing someone and not making the news headlines, Unfortunately, it's the crazies that make the news and most non-Americans assume everyone here is like that. Not to take away from your points, because you make some good ones. We do have our problems, but so does everyone else.

Just for the record, I wasn't referring to any specific nation in my post, just in case that ignorance post was pointed at me.

I still believe, (be it naively) the world can be a much nicer place if the people in it were nicer to one another, progress through mutual co operation etc...

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What more do people want?  Theres already Rated M several places on the box, and every ad for the game.  Movies have a rating.  TV Shows have a rating.  If you are a parent, watch/play the game to see if it is okay.  I am sure you can find a lets play somewhere for any given game.

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I don't understand why it is video games fault.  I mean.. Pretty much EVERY MOVIE has someone or a tonne of someones being killed. There are also shows after shows with killing.  

Yea.. Parappa the Rappa made me mad a bunch.. but I never went out and killed someone because I couldn't chop the onion.

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Just for the record, I wasn't referring to any specific nation in my post, just in case that ignorance post was pointed at me.

 

I wasn't :)

 

 

I still believe, (be it naively) the world can be a much nicer place if the people in it were nicer to one another, progress through mutual co operation etc...

 

Same here but that goal looks further away every day.

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Kill me... I dont want to live in this word anymore..too many stupid people.

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Kill me... I dont want to live in this word anymore..too many stupid people.

 

Don't say that too loud in public or someone might just help you out.

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Don't say that too loud in public or someone might just help you out.

Hey its either war or natural disaster  :pinch:

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Why not? I mean, if they can't be a contributing factor to later violence, then what's the harm?

 

You can't have it both ways. The very notion that for some people, violence from video games, movies, and/or music, has no effect on the human brain, is ludicrous. The average US child will have viewed over 16,000 simulated murders by the time they are 18.

 

And we wonder why these mass shootings keep happening. There have always been mentally unstable people, but not until the time of TV and video games did these events occur with such regularity. This isn't rocket science.

 

Couple that with a culture of guns and this is what you get. I don't know what the answer is, but as I said, for some folks, video games can be damaging.

 

 

My point was the content is inappropriate, not that the content leads murderous, gun-toting children. Some content is simply too mature for children to understand or process. I don't think pornography creates rapists, a common assertion from people who are anti-porn, but I don't think children should view that, either.

 

In addition, games are often used by parents as substitute parents which encourages a sedentary lifestyle which is unhealthy.

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You act as if it can't be a contributing factor.

 

I watched a study on Children associated with violent video games and they were in general more prone to outbursts, anxiety, inattentiveness and outright violence than the control group. Not by a little bit, but by a massive margin. It's a chicken-egg study for sure, but the results are worth noting at the very least.

 

Do you honestly think exposing people to violence won't have negative repercussions?

 

With the prevalence of gaming, and furthermore the prevalence of violent gaming, I would say no, it is not a contributing factor to anything. If it was there would be many, many more mass shootings/killings. 

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