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#16 Radium

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 18:33

What a waste of time and money that could spent on other things.




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Posted 23 September 2013 - 18:39

Steam OS clearly sounds like something to compete with PS4 and/or Xbox One. What I have read is that it will be a free media and gaming platform OS, that can install on any PC in your living room. So it will turn essentially any pc connected to your tv into a PS4/Xbox One like game console. 



#18 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 18:40

I'm in. If this plays all my games, I'm done with Windows. I'm very anxous to try this out!

 

 

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Down at the bottom, under "All the Games you love", it says there's more games coming in 2014. It could just be marketing hype, or Mr. Newall has an amazing charisma and managed to get a lot more devs onboard.



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 18:49

They might be able to pull this off, I am just not sure. The threat they feel from Windows must be immense. I would hope Microsoft would continue to foster DirectX and allow 3rd party app stores like Origin and Steam!



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 18:52

The threat they feel from Windows must be immense.

 

I've been a big fan from the start of Windows 8 but Valve have absolutely nothing to fear from the Windows store, it's a huge damp squib and I don't see it getting any better.



#21 HawkMan

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:03

If every game developer out there ports to OpenGL instead of DirectX it will be a wonderful thing. Until then....


Porting to/using OGL doesn't magically make a game multi platform.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:12

Porting to/using OGL doesn't magically make a game multi platform.

 

True, but it would be a start.



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:13

Porting to/using OGL doesn't magically make a game multi platform.

Actually, it prunes like... what, 90% of the difficulties to port them? the other 10% is the OpenGL implementation... on the host side. If valve does is ok, then they will get a better OpenGL implementation than most if not all Linux distros... hence the beginning of the gaming era on SteamOS. I'm perfectly fine with it.



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:15

Oh geez. SteamOS? I did not see that one coming.



#25 kaotic

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:19

I really see no point in this OS. I already use Elementary and Windows 8 (both already have Steam). 



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:20

Boy the fanboys jumped on this one quick. Hows about we actually let the announcements finish before dismissing the whole project just because it's Linux-based. Newsflash guys, the PS4 will be BSD based, so there's a very popular Unix based OS that'll win big at Christmas.

 

The Steam OS has got a lot of potential going for it. Consider the following:

 

  • Steam on Linux already has nearly 200 games. That'll give a SteamOS-based PC two hundred launch titles. More than both the other consoles combined. This doesn't include the possibility of Steam working with WINE, which would include many other Windows games.

  • A SteamOS machine could be more powerful than the XB1 and PS4, given that XB1 and PS4 specs are pretty much fixed until the end of the decade.

  • Anyone who already has a Steam account can have access to their games on their SteamOS PC as well, so someone could get a steam PC for their TV for Christmas, and already have a heap of games to play.

I think these all have the potential to give a Steambox console a leg up.

 

I'm not going to place bets either way on how SteamOS will turn out. It could do well, it could do poorly. It's certainly not competing with Windows or such because it's not a general purpose OS. This is an OS tweaked for gaming only. I hope it is successful though because it would be good to see a proper 3 way fight between the consoles.

 

Sometimes I think that Neowin has some of the most rabid fanboys on the web. No-where else do I see people so eager to dump on an unrelated project just because it's not Windows. Seriously guys, get a grip.



#27 HawkMan

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:20

Actually, it prunes like... what, 90% of the difficulties to port them? the other 10% is the OpenGL implementation... on the host side. If valve does is ok, then they will get a better OpenGL implementation than most if not all Linux distros... hence the beginning of the gaming era on SteamOS. I'm perfectly fine with it.


Properly coded, switching to OGL would probably be from 50% to even less of the job.

and why would valve with less support and no install base get more support from hardware makers than established and widely used distros? Makes no sense.

And besides that, all other distros would then have the same implementation as SteamOS...

#28 HawkMan

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:26

Boy the fanboys jumped on this one quick. Hows about we actually let the announcements finish before dismissing the whole project just because it's Linux-based. Newsflash guys, the PS4 will be BSD based, so there's a very popular Unix based OS that'll win big at Christmas.
 
The Steam OS has got a lot of potential going for it. Consider the following:
 

  • Steam on Linux already has nearly 200 games. That'll give a SteamOS-based PC two hundred launch titles. More than both the other consoles combined. This doesn't include the possibility of Steam working with WINE, which would include many other Windows games.
  • A SteamOS machine could be more powerful than the XB1 and PS4, given that XB1 and PS4 specs are pretty much fixed until the end of the decade.
  • Anyone who already has a Steam account can have access to their games on their SteamOS PC as well, so someone could get a steam PC for their TV for Christmas, and already have a heap of games to play.
I think these all have the potential to give a Steambox console a leg up.
 
I'm not going to place bets either way on how SteamOS will turn out. It could do well, it could do poorly. It's certainly not competing with Windows or such because it's not a general purpose OS. This is an OS tweaked for gaming only. I hope it is successful though because it would be good to see a proper 3 way fight between the consoles.
 
Sometimes I think that Neowin has some of the most rabid fanboys on the web. No-where else do I see people so eager to dump on an unrelated project just because it's not Windows. Seriously guys, get a grip.

So, who's the target audience ?

Gamers play on their computers, they also want to use them for other things. So not them
Console gamers, to expensive, not standardized and the vast majority would build/buy a system to install an OS on to save their lives. Leaving the steambox OEM possibility for them, 800 dollar steambox or less than 500 dollar Xbox one that also has access to Xbox music and movies, spotify music while playing games, kinect and so on...


Not saying it'll fail, but I don't see it being a success.

#29 kaotic

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:29

Boy the fanboys jumped on this one quick. Hows about we actually let the announcements finish before dismissing the whole project just because it's Linux-based. Newsflash guys, the PS4 will be BSD based, so there's a very popular Unix based OS that'll win big at Christmas.

 

The Steam OS has got a lot of potential going for it. Consider the following:

 

  • Steam on Linux already has nearly 200 games. That'll give a SteamOS-based PC two hundred launch titles. More than both the other consoles combined. This doesn't include the possibility of Steam working with WINE, which would include many other Windows games.

  • A SteamOS machine could be more powerful than the XB1 and PS4, given that XB1 and PS4 specs are pretty much fixed until the end of the decade.

  • Anyone who already has a Steam account can have access to their games on their SteamOS PC as well, so someone could get a steam PC for their TV for Christmas, and already have a heap of games to play.

I think these all have the potential to give a Steambox console a leg up.

 

I'm not going to place bets either way on how SteamOS will turn out. It could do well, it could do poorly. It's certainly not competing with Windows or such because it's not a general purpose OS. This is an OS tweaked for gaming only. I hope it is successful though because it would be good to see a proper 3 way fight between the consoles.

 

Sometimes I think that Neowin has some of the most rabid fanboys on the web. No-where else do I see people so eager to dump on an unrelated project just because it's not Windows. Seriously guys, get a grip.

 

Gaming OS? It will most likely only play Steam games. That means any game from Origin or games you have to install outside of Steam WILL NOT work. You won't be playing BF3, BF4 or Titanfall (when it ships) on SteamOS or SteamBox. 

 

I don't think you're going to see the Steambox with ps4 or xboxone quality of hardware. For that thing to be successful the price will have to be 100-299 dollars. 

 

The reason why a lot of people are dumping on it is because it's pointless when you have linux distros (and windows) that already have Steam and play just fine. 



#30 Yinchie

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 19:30

I do not think they can compete. I am sure if they tailor the OS correctly, towards gaming, the experience could be great. No hassle with drivers ... etc. Repi (twttier.com/repi) , one of the designers of frostbite says, the best driver is no driver!

 

Titles like BF4 will not come to this platform. I can see a few, but it is hard to succeed when you do not have the games!

 

You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!