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www.roofinginc.com/NEWSITE

Im just about finishing a responsive website for a client. I did his first website in 2009. The website was desktop only. I charge about $2000 for that website. I talk into him to make it responsive for tablets and mobile. He didn't want to at first but I told him that you really need it because your clients are high end rich people and they will not view your site on a macbook pro. IPhone and iPads are what they will see it.

Do you think $1000 too much for the website? I spend about 60 hours on it. Setting it up and debugging it. Put a lot more features and the site will work for 5 years or more. Custom site. That comes out to about $16 an hour.

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$3000 for a basic site? Wow.

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$3000 for a basic site? Wow.

So how much should I charge for it to be responsive?

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You've done the work without agreeing a price?

 

I know you can't second guess how long it's going to take but a hourly basis or some sort of guide should be in a contract?

 

Can i recommend some slight spacing between the navigation buttons (on the overlay) and vertical align it so that it's centre to the logo. Also the font you have used for the main text is more of a heading font, it's unnecessarily tall with bad line-spacing.

 

It's a nice site, i like it.

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We always did a pay as we go. After working on it, it take longer then I thought. Debugging is always half the time with this. He didn't want to change the design or use WordPress he can always change working or links.

 

Better twin, I know you think wow, $3000 for a website but you got to understand the front-end coding is different and I setup the all the social network and getting SEO working.

 

How much should I charge him then? I also design his logo, business card, letterhead and fixing photos.

 

 

I pretty much don't like the website anymore. The orange is too much but I still like the logo.

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Better twin, I know you think wow, $3000 for a website but you got to understand the front-end coding is different and I setup the all the social network and getting SEO working.

 

How much should I charge him then? I also design his logo, business card, letterhead and fixing photos.

 

If you already had a verbal agreement I would stick with it. Edit: By this i mean sticking with the current arrangement.

Dont worry im impressed (wish i could convince my clients that their websites are of similar worth lol).

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If you already had a verbal agreement I would stick with it. 

Dont worry im impressed (wish i could convince my clients that their websites are of similar worth lol).

 

We met 4 times about it. I just want him to think I'm cheating him.

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We met 4 times about it. I just want him to think I'm cheating him.

I know the feeling. I have clients who seem really keen and then I quote them a price (which for me is quite low / hour) and then I never hear from them again. 

I think if you've already got a good relationship with him then you should be alright. Its not cheating to charge your rate. It is what it is.

Just emphasise what you've done (testing on different screen sizes/devices etc).

Maybe a good idea would be to itemise your work if he does take issue?  

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Looked at the site. All I can say is that it is "DRAMTIC".

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$3000 for a basic site? Wow.

 

Bespoke work takes a fair bit of time and planning.  If a client wants an "off the shelf" solution then obviously it;ll be cheaper.  I don't feel the figure quoted is particularly unreasonable for the work done.

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Bespoke work takes a fair bit of time and planning.  If a client wants an "off the shelf" solution then obviously it;ll be cheaper.  I don't feel the figure quoted is particularly unreasonable for the work done.

Yeah. I think I need to charge more :rofl:

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You should always be time tracking your work anyway, with some sort of itemisation... this way it doesn't look like your plucking numbers out of thin air.

 

You say you worked on SEO, social networking etc... how long for? is the rate the same throughout different tasks? Is he well aware he's paying for additional stuff like SEO and social, has he specifically asked for that?

 

it's a nice site, and probably worth your asking.. if it was me, i'd probably go slightly lower... i would think of it as: if i charged $2000 for a full site, it's slightly unrealistic to ask for half of that for an update... but then again, if he is well aware he's paying you for SEO, social, business cards, leaflets etc, then the cost of $1000 wont come as a surprise.

 

All of this should be in a contract, even if you don't have a figure your client knows exactly what he's paying for, and i get the feeling you are worried about throwing $1000 at him, otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

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Do you honestly charge $16 an hour? is that Lawrenceville, GA, India /s

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Do you honestly charge $16 an hour? is that Lawrenceville, GA, India /s

Made me laugh :)

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If anyone have an iPhone can you test it and see it looks right

:-)

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If anyone have an iPhone can you test it and see it looks right

:-)

 

I can't say much about how it looks on an iPhone but I can say that it doesn't look broken at all on the Nokia Lumia 925. :)

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Back when I did website design, this was awhile ago grant you and I also did a decent amount of Flash websites as well (as I said, it was a while ago, has been almost 6 years since I even touched a website) I charged NO LESS than $50 an hour, and I preferred to get more. The reason I got out of doing websites all together was the people who do insist it should be cheaper, and who in fact made it an almost "template" driven commodity. Just as with any type of special services offered out there, people found a way to make it cheap and affordable to all, thus making the custom built website business a truly hard one to be in.

 

Sure, those types of sites have their time and place, but I never did that or considered doing that. I always gave each customer their own custom design. I was offering a very specialized service, and as a result was a specialist. If you look at any other field, specialists charge a whole lot of money per hour. Yet for some reason it got to the point where web designers were no longer considered specialists. A lot of that does have to do with how easily certain places made putting up a website for the average user.

 

Now with that said, I think you have done a very nice, clean website here. Few spelling mistakes, nothing that cannot be fixed easily. But does the site separate itself enough from a template driven service that the customer could have used for a fraction of the price? I think it probably does to be honest, but this is the world you now face. Web Design is probably the toughest, most competitive field for a designer to be in right now.

 

Just have to keep this in mind, and in the future no matter how good of friends you are with the client and how much work they have given you in the past, etc., set the price up front. At the very least set an hourly rate and their maximum budget.

 

I realize this post can come off as negative, but that is not my intent at all. It is just to say due to the competitiveness of web design and the fact there are so many outlets out there that have cheapened the whole web world, figure out what is going to separate your web design from those services. How do you bring a value they do not? And it is always best to present yourself as a specialist who deserves to be paid specialist money. For example your client for this website, they are a specialist for roofing are they not? I guarantee you they are charging accordingly, so do not feel as if you cannot do the same as well.

 

Good luck. (Y) 

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idk if it'd charge that much without doing any sort of programming.

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Looks good on Android. Using the dolphin browser.

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Really up to you to decide what your time is worth. You've mentioned 60 hours. Figure out what an hour of your time is worth. An average salary in the US would probably work out about $20-25/hr. Up to you where you place yourself.

 

It appears you have the site on the live server...seems a tad risky if you've not been paid yet surely? A simple change of the FTP password and you're out of luck.

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Really up to you to decide what your time is worth. You've mentioned 60 hours. Figure out what an hour of your time is worth. An average salary in the US would probably work out about $20-25/hr. Up to you where you place yourself.

 

It appears you have the site on the live server...seems a tad risky if you've not been paid yet surely? A simple change of the FTP password and you're out of luck.

Been working with this guy for years. So there is no risk having it online.

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Depends if it's a parttime job next to your actual job or not, as example I don't charge that much for just template work and it also doesn't take that long to just add mediaqueries (lol) ;)

But just frontend mediaqueries work like this should have been do able in 12 hours so 12*$20= $240 is the average price I would have asked.

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