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Apple launches faster iMacs with 802.11ac WiFi, Pro graphics, improved Flash

 

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Apple has launched an updated line of iMacs with faster processors, improved graphics, faster 802.11ac WiFi connectivity, and improved Flash storage. The new iMacs are now available from Apple

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To me it's over priced for what I'd get. Nice to see them upgrade, though.

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To me it's over priced for what I'd get. Nice to see them upgrade, though.

That's hard to say since there really isn't anything else out there in that form-factor to compare it to.

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Entry level iMac and just Intel Iris graphics?

 

My 2 year old entry level iMac had Radeon HD6750M.

 

Clearly it's high pricing.

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Entry level iMac and just Intel Iris graphics?

 

My 2 year old entry level iMac had Radeon HD6750M.

 

Clearly it's high pricing.

 

the intel iris pro beats the pants off a 6750M.

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^^ Source please

 

HD6750 is 2.5 year old tech.

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At least compare like for like.. factor in the form factor, build quality and display..

But that'd ruin his point...

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At least compare like for like.. factor in the form factor, build quality and display..

same size and resolution moniter.

 

There is no way for me to directly compare the all-in-one form factor. i tried to take build quality in to consideration. i never chose the lowest price item unless i felt it was the best comparable item. for example i chose the foxconn for the motherboard. but spec for spec... apple's taking you for a ride on your dime.

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the intel iris pro beats the pants off a 6750M.

 

You're joking right? They are not even the same class graphics. IGP with DDR3 and mobile with dedicated GDDR5.

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same size and resolution moniter.

 

There is no way for me to directly compare the all-in-one form factor. i tried to take build quality in to consideration. i never chose the lowest price item unless i felt it was the best comparable item. for example i chose the foxconn for the motherboard. but spec for spec... apple's taking you for a ride on your dime.

:rofl: You guys make me laugh. The iMac is not some cheap computer that was slapped together and then had a high price tag thrown on. It's a premium device made of premium materials. Does Apple put a mark up on the price? of course! but so do every other company, if they sold it for what it cost them that wouldn't be good business now would it? then there is the fact your getting the best customer service from any company on the planet, yeah Apple sure are ripping you off  :rolleyes:

 

EDIT: If another company can built an AiO that is to the same high standard, build quality, thinness and equally as powerful as an iMac and yet is considerably cheaper (and that company doesn't go bankrupt trying to sell it) THEN I'll believe an iMac is over priced.

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:rofl: You guys make me laugh. The iMac is not some cheap computer that was slapped together and then had a high price tag thrown on. It's a premium device made of premium materials. Does Apple put a mark up on the price? of course! but so do every other company, if they sold it for what it cost them that wouldn't be good business would it? then there is the fact your getting the best customer service from any company on the planet, yeah Apple sure are ripping you off  :rolleyes:

 

that's funny. i've never had a good experience from their customer service. the last time they tried to tell me that ipod shuffle had water damage despite the fact it was working one night, was left in my pocket after i went to bed and the very next day it just simply decided to not charge any more. They tried to claim water damage by claiming that it looked pink at the bottom of the headphone jack which it clearly wasn't. also, you have to buy applecare to get the level of customer service you're claiming.

 

P.S. you don't think that newegg doesn't have their own mark up on the items? of course they do. it wouldn't be as embarrasingly expensive it were marked up $50 over parts that you can get at newegg.. but they go for double. Apple's a common brand that's packaged like it's premium and if anyone has half a brain they would know that. they didn't ever have anything special other than a CEO who could spin the most mundane feature into something that seems critically awesome.

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You're joking right? They are not even the same class graphics. IGP with DDR3 and mobile with dedicated GDDR5.


He will blindly state some points. When asked to show source for his points, he won't reply.

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that's funny. i've never had a good experience from their customer service. the last time they tried to tell me that ipod shuffle had water damage despite the fact it was working one night, was left in my pocket after i went to bed and the very next day it just simply decided to not charge any more. They tried to claim water damage by claiming that it looked pink at the bottom of the headphone jack which it clearly wasn't. also, you have to buy applecare to get the level of customer service you're claiming.

 

P.S. you don't think that newegg doesn't have their own market on the items? of course they do. it wouldn't be as embarrasingly expensive it were marked up $50 over parts that you can get at newegg.. but they go for double. Apple's a common brand that's packaged like it's premium and if anyone has half a brain they would know that. they didn't ever have anything special other than a CEO who could spin the most mundane feature into something that seems critically awesome.

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, it happens to us all unfortunately. However, based on customer satisfaction polls Apple still has the highest level of satisfied customers, so while it is regrettable they treated you badly as a whole they are still better then most. I'm pretty sure you get AppleCare level of customer service for the first year and then have to pay to extend it beyond that year (which is pretty standard practise) but maybe I am wrong? I bought my Mac mini in '09 so can't remember if that was the case or not. 

 

Building a PC from scratch will always be cheaper, while in Australia we don't have "newegg" but we do have access to similar stores that offer quality parts for low cost. However, that isn't the point as you can under price virtual any OEM PC going the custom route. The point is most OEM PCs that are equal (in terms of power) but much cheaper in price tend to be of questionable build quality and the PCs that are of higher build quality tend to be as (or sometimes more) expensive then the Mac equivalent. Comparing same-for-same the Macs are not as expensive as most people think.

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:rofl: You guys make me laugh. The iMac is not some cheap computer that was slapped together and then had a high price tag thrown on. It's a premium device made of premium materials. Does Apple put a mark up on the price? of course! but so do every other company, if they sold it for what it cost them that wouldn't be good business now would it? then there is the fact your getting the best customer service from any company on the planet, yeah Apple sure are ripping you off  :rolleyes:

 

EDIT: If another company can built an AiO that is to the same high standard, build quality, thinness and equally as powerful as an iMac and yet is considerably cheaper (and that company doesn't go bankrupt trying to sell it) THEN I'll believe an iMac is over priced.

 

The only thing "premium" on an iMac, and I have one, is the case, nothing else, the rest are off the shelf parts you can buy on Newegg, if you want to over pay for a fancy case, then by all means do it, but don't make patently false claims about the iMac, you will be called out on them

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Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, it happens to us all unfortunately. However, based on customer satisfaction polls Apple still has the highest level of satisfied customers, so while it is regrettable they treated you badly as a whole they are still better then most. I'm pretty sure you get AppleCare level of customer service for the first year and then have to pay to extend it beyond that year (which is pretty standard practise) but maybe I am wrong? I bought my Mac mini in '09 so can't remember if that was the case or not. 

 

Building a PC from scratch will always be cheaper, while in Australia we don't have "newegg" but we do have access to similar stores that offer quality parts for low cost. However, that isn't the point as you can under price virtual any OEM PC going the custom route. The point is most OEM PCs that are equal (in terms of power) but much cheaper in price tend to be of questionable build quality and the PCs that are of higher build quality tend to be as (or sometimes more) expensive then the Mac equivalent. Comparing same-for-same the Macs are not as expensive as most people think.

 

when they refused to refund/replace the ipod i went home and uninstalled itunes from all home PCs.. it was also one of the deciding factors that led me to get a HTC 8Xt Windows phone.

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At least compare like for like.. factor in the form factor, build quality and display..

 

Plus the cost to assemble those components into a computer. Yes, your time might be free - but for the average non-tech savvy consumer, they'd have to pay for someone at a reasonable rate the cost of building that PC, installing the OS, etc. That would surely add another couple hundred dollars to the build price. But again, I guess it's convenient to ignore the other factors that go into the pricing of the system.

 

You also have, as I like to point out, excellent resale value on Apple hardware. Residuals are often a major factor when deciding on spending more on a car for example, as you know it will be worth more when you sell it on say two years down the line. I don't see why taking this into consideration on a computer should be any different. 

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:rofl: You guys make me laugh. The iMac is not some cheap computer that was slapped together and then had a high price tag thrown on. It's a premium device made of premium materials. Does Apple put a mark up on the price? of course! but so do every other company, if they sold it for what it cost them that wouldn't be good business now would it? then there is the fact your getting the best customer service from any company on the planet, yeah Apple sure are ripping you off  :rolleyes:

 

EDIT: If another company can built an AiO that is to the same high standard, build quality, thinness and equally as powerful as an iMac and yet is considerably cheaper (and that company doesn't go bankrupt trying to sell it) THEN I'll believe an iMac is over priced.

You sound just like this apple fan boy I work with. He thinks apple can do no wrong. Seriously dude get a clue, those parts aren't any more high quality than any other OEM. They all use the same freaking chipsets and parts. There is nothing of higher quality. All apple products are just over priced stuff that's just made with Chinese slave labor. And before you say apple is moving its manufacturing back to the USA, they are only doing that because its getting to be cheaper to build some of it here than over seas. Also more people are looking at the whole made in the USA tag thing because outsourcing is giving away American jobs.

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Plus the cost to assemble those components into a computer. Yes, your time might be free - but for the average non-tech savvy consumer, they'd have to pay for someone at a reasonable rate the cost of building that PC, installing the OS, etc. That would surely add another couple hundred dollars to the build price. But again, I guess it's convenient to ignore the other factors that go into the pricing of the system.

 

You also have, as I like to point out, excellent resale value on Apple hardware. Residuals are often a major factor when deciding on spending more on a car for example, as you know it will be worth more when you sell it on say two years down the line. I don't see why taking this into consideration on a computer should be any different. 

i can compare the resale value on a mac to the reusability of componets on my build. i can keep the moniter, case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, and depending on how cheap i want to go in the upgrade process i could even keep the ram and hdd depending on how obsolete they are.

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Plus the cost to assemble those components into a computer. Yes, your time might be free - but for the average non-tech savvy consumer, they'd have to pay for someone at a reasonable rate the cost of building that PC, installing the OS, etc. That would surely add another couple hundred dollars to the build price. But again, I guess it's convenient to ignore the other factors that go into the pricing of the system.

 

You also have, as I like to point out, excellent resale value on Apple hardware. Residuals are often a major factor when deciding on spending more on a car for example, as you know it will be worth more when you sell it on say two years down the line. I don't see why taking this into consideration on a computer should be any different. 

Kind of what they pay the Chinese slaves to build the same system?

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I can buy a family car and buy after market upgrades on the cheap or I can pay a premium and buy a ready made sports car.  I know which I would choose.

 

edit: oh by the way welcome to 10 years ago :P

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Kind of what they pay the Chinese slaves to build the same system?

 

You're telling me Apple are the only company that do this? Microsoft, Samsung, etc will all be taking advantage of the same cheap labour. So your point is what exactly? 

 

There's no point in singling Apple out for this - every single big tech company is just as bad. 

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You're telling me Apple are the only company that do this? Microsoft, Samsung, etc will all be taking advantage of the same cheap labour. So your point is what exactly? 

 

There's no point in singling Apple out for this - every single big tech company is just as bad. 

he was dismanteling your point on the extra cost of putting together the computer when it's really pennies being paid to slaves in china.

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