Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yeah, typo. Sorry. My best speculation would be 4GB variant - $500-550 and the 6GB variant $599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 pretty much yeah offically :blush: Specifications were confirmed, and not the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 26, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2013 Since I'm still rocking my Core i7 920 and this x58 mobo I don't see how moving up from my HD7870 will help performance much when I've got other bottlenecks going on. The new cards do look nice and if I had the new gen CPUs and chipsets to better take advantage of them then I'd think about upgrading. But for now looks like i'll be behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 AMD should have just announced the price for the 290X with the rest of the cards. Now some sites are reporting "Rumors abound the event are that the R9 290X will retail at around the 780 price point". I'll be upset if the price will end up even higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 26, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2013 AMD should have just announced the price for the 290X with the rest of the cards. Now some sites are reporting "Rumors abound the event are that the R9 290X will retail at around the 780 price point". I'll be upset if the price will end up even higher than that. If the 290X can match and even beat the TITAN which is a $1k card why wouldn't AMD try and charge as much while still undercutting NVidia by a good margin? I mean even at $700 that's a $300 difference, to some looking for the top of the top that's a good bit of cash to save between the two. Why should or does AMD have to price it as low as possible when it's direct competitor is still priced up so high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 AMD should have just announced the price for the 290X with the rest of the cards. Now some sites are reporting "Rumors abound the event are that the R9 290X will retail at around the 780 price point". I'll be upset if the price will end up even higher than that. I wouldn't buy too much into that price. Even tomshardware said it's an 1K card when AMD had already said it won't even be close to that. But well it's normal for that site, the authors there are just so brainwashed that they'll do everything to bash AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If the 290X can match and even beat the TITAN which is a $1k card why wouldn't AMD try and charge as much while still undercutting NVidia by a good margin? I mean even at $700 that's a $300 difference, to some looking for the top of the top that's a good bit of cash to save between the two. Why should or does AMD have to price it as low as possible when it's direct competitor is still priced up so high? To sell more. If it's going to be at $500 a pop, I'm getting two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 To sell more? They need to make profit on them as well. It's not just the manufacturing costs that go around, R&D, lobbying etc. Tho 1k for a card is already too much, that's not profit, that's milking. Also that 780 price point can't be true since you can get an 7990 for that money already and as AMD said they won't price single cards as high as dual gpu cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 26, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2013 To sell more. If it's going to be at $500 a pop, I'm getting two. I get what you're saying but you're the minority. Honestly I'd like to see a break down of how many PC users or just PC gamers overall actually do SLi/CrossFire because I think the % is in the single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 To sell more? They need to make profit on them as well. It's not just the manufacturing costs that go around, R&D, lobbying etc. Tho 1k for a card is already too much, that's not profit, that's milking. Also that 780 price point can't be true since you can get an 7990 for that money already and as AMD said they won't price single cards as high as dual gpu cards. If you sell more for less, you're making profit. If they're pricing it at $500 and I'm buying two, that's 1k bucks. If they price it at $700 and I'm buying only one, that's $300 lost just from me. And I'm sure I won't be the only one that will buy more than one, if the price is right. I'm not bothering with if it's right, or wrong now. For me every price point is wrong, until it's official. I just hope they'll hit my sweet spot. I get what you're saying but you're the minority. Honestly I'd like to see a break down of how many PC users or just PC gamers overall actually do SLi/CrossFire because I think the % is in the single digits. I've got four PCs. Wasn't intending to go crossfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted September 26, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2013 To sell more? They need to make profit on them as well. It's not just the manufacturing costs that go around, R&D, lobbying etc. Tho 1k for a card is already too much, that's not profit, that's milking. Also that 780 price point can't be true since you can get an 7990 for that money already and as AMD said they won't price single cards as high as dual gpu cards. Shouldn't the 7990 see a price cut though? Maybe to $650 or so because it doesn't sound like it's the top card performance wise anymore, so they should account for that at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Shouldn't the 7990 see a price cut though? Maybe to $650 or so because it doesn't sound like it's the top card performance wise anymore, so they should account for that at least. It is already 650 on newegg actually. My bad. But like I said the new one will be under that since AMD already said in Forbes that they won't price single gpu cards over dual gpu ones, I'm guessing even if it's last gen dual gpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Found out that nvidia revealing their new toys on Friday. Perhaps AMD waiting to see what they offer and then decide on the price for the R9 290X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted September 27, 2013 Veteran Share Posted September 27, 2013 It looks like AMD's console dominance will lend itself well to improved PC gaming performance. Next-gen game will be optimized right off the bat for the Graphics Core Next architecture. With AMD's Mantle API for PC, some of those optimizations can carry over for better performance. It'll be interesting to see how much of a performance boost AMD systems will get over DX11/11.1. Maybe their investment in 8-core CPUs will finally pay off. Could AMD finally take back the performance crown from Intel and NVIDIA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It looks like AMD's console dominance will lend itself well to improved PC gaming performance. Next-gen game will be optimized right off the bat for the Graphics Core Next architecture. With AMD's Mantle API for PC, some of those optimizations can carry over for better performance. It'll be interesting to see how much of a performance boost AMD systems will get over DX11/11.1. Maybe their investment in 8-core CPUs will finally pay off. Could AMD finally take back the performance crown from Intel and NVIDIA? From Intel - That's not really utopia if you think about it. The 8 core FX's are already out there and last year Jim Keller (the original architect of K8) came back so all the automated design process that AMD did on BD/PD will be probably looked over by Keller and there will be changes to the cores or the whole arch itself. Already the win of both consoles is a good sign for AMD and developers will finally start making use of the 8 cores even on PC. From Nvidia - They might. Arceles 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted September 28, 2013 Veteran Share Posted September 28, 2013 From Intel - That's not really utopia if you think about it. The 8 core FX's are already out there and last year Jim Keller (the original architect of K8) came back so all the automated design process that AMD did on BD/PD will be probably looked over by Keller and there will be changes to the cores or the whole arch itself. Already the win of both consoles is a good sign for AMD and developers will finally start making use of the 8 cores even on PC. From Nvidia - They might. In any case, things are looking really good for AMD. They caught us by surprise with the new API as well as the R9 290/290X's audio feature (TrueAudio). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 My FX8350 and R7950 are ready :D I knew buying more or less reference hardware would pay in the long run... except for True Audio, then again I have my creative Z and very happy with the SnR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 280x and 270x reviews are out. The price for the 290x is still unknown :( http://techreport.com/review/25466/amd-radeon-r9-280x-and-270x-graphics-cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Prices for the 290x were revealed. A bit higher than I expected, but within my sweet spot. 550-600usd Now to wait for games to make use of the TrueAudio; which I'm looking for more than Mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 If you sell more for less, you're making profit. If they're pricing it at $500 and I'm buying two, that's 1k bucks. If they price it at $700 and I'm buying only one, that's $300 lost just from me. And I'm sure I won't be the only one that will buy more than one, if the price is right. I'm not bothering with if it's right, or wrong now. For me every price point is wrong, until it's official. I just hope they'll hit my sweet spot. I've got four PCs. Wasn't intending to go crossfire. That's not how profit works. If it costs AMD $500 in materials, manufacturing etc, for a single card, they're making $0 profit in your first scenario, and they're making $200 profit in the second scenario if you only buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah, I decided to purchase 2 R9 290X's because I'm very interested in Mantle. While I still have my Nvidia GPUs, I might just build another PC for testing with G-Sync when the chips/monitors are released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I think this is a Win/Win for everyone. if AMD and Nvidia compete for supremacy, thats equates to better products and prices for the consumer. then guys like me who buy OEM Toshibas win because they simply cut down the pipelines in their mobile processors but they are STILL powerful for gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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