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#16 OP Elliot B.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 17:23

Some changes where nice but just changing for the sake of changing is dumb IMO. Some good changes are things like having the contact info in a text message always there so you no longer have to scroll to the top to call the person. Giving the folders tabs was also a nice change since I had 3 folders with games and now I only have 1 folder. The overall change to the looks I could do without. Seems dated to me. Something I would expect to see back in 2000. Doesn't have any depth to it. Again, all personal opinions and preference.

You're missing the point. Those new features they could have implemented with the iOS 1-6 visual style. It's the huge visual overhaul that I've had a lot of friends, family and co-workers annoyed about.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 17:57

You're missing the point. Those new features they could have implemented with the iOS 1-6 visual style. It's the huge visual overhaul that I've had a lot of friends, family and co-workers annoyed about.

and they'll deal with it and get used to it. Give them a few weeks and they won't even care anymore

It's the same with every UI change ever. OMG new facebook suxxx OMG the ribbon suxxx OMG etc...



#18 OP Elliot B.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 17:59

and they'll deal with it and get used to it. Give them a few weeks and they won't even care anymore

It's the same with every UI change ever. OMG new facebook suxxx OMG the ribbon suxxx OMG etc...

I see your point to a certain extent, but Facebook has never had a complete design overhaul. They have altered the profile pages in order to add a timeline, but that was actually a feature. Whereas Apple have changed the ENTIRE design of iOS 7 - and many don't think it was worth it. The new iOS 7 features would have worked just fine with the old style.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 18:13

i think the theme would've been overhauled much sooner if forstall wasn't gunning for skeuromorphism all this time, conversely if he was still at the helm of apple then we wouldn't have had this design change even now.  i don't know the technicalities much but my understanding is that changing themes probably eats up resources that are otherwise free so the phone remains as 'optimized' as possible.

 

there are definitely some things that requires getting used to, such as having the outline of a button as opposed to just the word/phrase itself, and some buttons being small that my fingers accidentally hit the ones adjacent to it, but overall, i'm still pleased with it.

 

i like that now the focus is more on the content than the interface. it's like the phone knows when to 'get out of your way' so you can focus on what's there instead of creating a clutter.  could this have been accomplished with the old theme?  maybe...but it would've still looked staid and dated.

 

either way, the reviews have been far more favourable than unfavourable from what i've read so far.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 18:16

I would hardly say it was a pointless change, aside from the numerous usability features added... control center, safari tweaks, better stock apps, sounds, game center, compass/leveler, maps UI, etc... it's just a refreshing change from the same old UI they've been using for 6 years now.... cleaner, more focused on content than fake aesthetics... leather stitching for example. I'm extremely happy with the new UI. Just like anything that's a major change, people hate it until they actually start using the thing and would hate going back. Wasn't there a study that took old facebook elements against the new ones and people had a fit when they tried to use the old UI? The same thing here, not to mention the majority of users have already updated.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 20:46

You're missing the point. Those new features they could have implemented with the iOS 1-6 visual style. It's the huge visual overhaul that I've had a lot of friends, family and co-workers annoyed about.

Sigh.. you are just here to start arguments clearly. Don't ask for opinions if your only here to put them down. I said some changes were good, others were bad, and other pointless. You didn't even say anything that relates to what I said and are arguing it anyway. Read next time before trying to argue something. Conversation done. And if you really want to argue me, go ahead and quote where I said that the new features couldn't have been added in the old iOS. You can't, because I didn't. You are making up arguments to argue against for what reason? Self validation? Argue in the mirror if that's all you are here for.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 20:54

No problem with design changing when it serves a purpose - either by being more intuitive or usable.

 

iOS7 has many inconsistencies (likely the many hands touching the pie syndrome) and appears to be faux-flat (only some elements are "flat") because that's trendy. The colour palette is pretty poor too. Way too bright and childish looking. Stuff like the parallax effects are pure gimmickry and completely pointless. Let's just say it's far from a design classic.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 21:05

I'm not sure most users cared, only those on tech blogs and forums.

I checked Twitter following the release, and lots of non-techies liked what they saw, especially women, it seemed.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 21:07

The features in iOS 7 won me over and I like it a lot more than iOS 6.  Namely the new Safari, multitasking UI, and control center are all nice features that I use often.  Notifications is OK...the only thing I really like about the new notifications is checking when my alarm is set the next morning is slightly easier than opening the app.

 

The look and feel UI changes were all just change for change sake.  They could have added these features to the existing look and feel of iOS 6 but decided not to.  I'm indifferent about one look over the other.  Not sure how I feel about the new look.  Its not terrible, but it also isn't really improved much.  I can't say if things are any easier to read on the screen, navigate, or w/e. 

 

iOS, OS X and Apple TV all look very different from one another.  I think Apple needs to pick a direction and unify the look and feel of all their products.

 

I'm not sure if people outside of the techie crowd really care.  Apple can make money despite what a tech crowd think of them and I think mostly people like it or are indifferent.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 21:34

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In many ways, the change ruined the UI in many ways to the user in order spite Scott Forstall.

The real question is, has the new UI brought any benefit to the user? - The simple answer is no, and even worse, the new UI has actually negatively benefited the user. Example, why remove iconography in the Notifications panel that described the weather? We as users should not spend additional time reading 2 lines of text to determiner the weather, we should see an icon (like before) plus a High and Low temperature number. Done! Keep is simple Apple, not spiteful.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 21:42

I checked Twitter following the release, and lots of non-techies liked what they saw, especially women, it seemed.

I have zero opinion myself, so don't take this as a cheap shot against Apple, I don't own any iOS devices. I've seen a fair number of negatives as well scroll on my various Twitter feeds, for example just search for #ios7sucks.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 21:58

It might be change for the sake of change to an extent, but I like it. I prefer the UI of iOS 7, just like I prefer the Win8 UI to Win7. I used to run Windows Classic all the time on XP. I like flat, simple design. iOS 7 certainly isn't perfect, but I also like that it gives me more screen real estate than did the skueomorphism of iOS 6 and earlier.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 22:09

I have zero opinion myself, so don't take this as a cheap shot against Apple, I don't own any iOS devices. I've seen a fair number of negatives as well scroll on my various Twitter feeds, 

I hear Miley Cyrus is not impressed

 

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 22:18

After using iOS 7, iOS 6 does look very dated and definitely needed updating.

 

You always get people who hate change. Why should we care what they think?

Exactly.  And from what I've read, most of the anti-7 posts are from those on older iPhone models (iPhone 4 and older) - in fact, I haven't seen so much as one anti-7 poster from the iPad side.  (I updated a friend's iPad to iOS 7 last night, and I'm actually impressed more with iOS 7 than I was with iOS 5 OR iOS 6 on the same iPad.)

 

Further, as has been the case with software/firmware updates (on computers and other devices - it's not unique to Windows or even iOS) there is very much a tendency to want to stand pat - I first ran across that tendency in mainframe-based computing.  (That's right - mainframes, as in pre-PC.  And I'm referring to IBM mainframes in particular.  IBM, even in the pre-PC days, put mainframe OS upgrades through the compatibility wringer a whole lot more than folks expected - they did NOT simply code and throw out mainframe OS upgrades into the customer hardware!)

 

If anything, it's worse outside of Windows as opposed to PCs and Windows - and it's worse in terms of phones as opposed to tablets.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 22:23

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In many ways, the change ruined the UI in many ways to the user in order spite Scott Forstall.

The real question is, has the new UI brought any benefit to the user? - The simple answer is no, and even worse, the new UI has actually negatively benefited the user. Example, why remove iconography in the Notifications panel that described the weather? We as users should not spend additional time reading 2 lines of text to determiner the weather, we should see an icon (like before) plus a High and Low temperature number. Done! Keep is simple Apple, not spiteful.

Is this on an iPhone (or iPhone-cabinet based device, such as the iPod nano/touch), or is this on an iPad?  (Yes - it's an honest question.  I was not that impressed with iOS 7 on an iPhone 4 in terms of appearance; however, I updated an iPad of the same vintage to the same flavor of iOS last night, and I'm more impressed on the iPad as opposed to the iPhone.  iPads have larger displays - even in the case of the mini - than the iPhones and iPods; therefore, it could be that iOS' benefits are more useful in terms of larger screen-sizes.)