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#1 Hum

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 22:52

(CNN) -- An Ohio man who has been legally dead since 1994 will remain so in the eyes of the law after losing his complaint to overturn his death filing, according to authorities.

Donald Miller, 61, testified Monday that he disappeared in 1986 after losing his job, leaving behind a wife, two children and thousands of dollars of unpaid child support, according to James Hammer, the attorney for Miller's ex-wife, Robin Miller. He was declared legally dead eight years later.

Donald Miller said he returned to Ohio "around 2005" with no knowledge of his legal death, and that he had hoped to reestablish his Social Security number.

A legal statute in Ohio prevents changes to death rulings once three years have passed, Hammer told CNN, and Judge Allan Davis ruled accordingly in Hancock County Probate Court.

"In over 40 years, I've never come across a case like this," the judge told CNN.

"In the end though, because of the statute, it was a pretty open-and-shut case."

Hammer recounts that at the time of Donald Miller's legal death in 1994, he owed Robin Miller around $25,000 in child support, a matter which could have been complicated had the judge ruled in Donald Miller's favor on Monday. Following the 1994 ruling, Hammer said, Robin Miller began receiving Social Security death benefits to support her two children.

"There could have been the possibility that my client would have to pay back what she received from Social Security," Hammer said.

"We certainly did not want to open that door, so we're satisfied with the outcome."

Despite her relief at the court's ruling, Hammer says his client has no ill will toward her ex-husband.

Donald Miller's attorney was not immediately available for comment Wednesday. He still has 30 days to appeal the court's ruling, according Judge Davis.

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#2 Garnet H.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:04

[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"
[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"

 

"He says he's not dead!"
"Yes, he is."
"I'm not!"
"He isn't."
"Well, he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better!"
"No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment."



#3 sidroc

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:07

[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"
[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"

 

"He says he's not dead!"
"Yes, he is."
"I'm not!"
"He isn't."
"Well, he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better!"
"No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment."

 

 

Can a dead man be sued? Can he be arrested? This status might have perks  :D . Open up Credit cards but not pay them because your dead and since your ex-wife receives your SS she's held liable.



#4 majortom1981

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:10

couldn't he change his name and get a new ss and start a new life?



#5 Arpit

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:20

Can a dead man be sued? Can he be arrested? This status might have perks  :D . Open up Credit cards but not pay them because your dead and since your ex-wife receives your SS she's held liable.

 

not sure if they'll issue credit cards to a dead guy



#6 sidroc

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:36

not sure if they'll issue credit cards to a dead guy

 

Oh they'd be shut down quick, but with a little trickery and doing everything on paper you might have one open long enough to use it.



#7 Growled

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 23:51

 

"There could have been the possibility that my client would have to pay back what she received from Social Security," Hammer said.

 
"We certainly did not want to open that door, so we're satisfied with the outcome."

 

What a scumbag. If you father them, support them. He should just go away now.



#8 +timster

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 00:38

so, does this guy have to pay taxes?



#9 seta-san

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 08:08

What a scumbag. If you father them, support them. He should just go away now.

 

i disagree. a woman gets pregnant. has the full right to abort. She has the right to safe-house abandonment and putting the kids out for adoption... The fact is, the state bends over backwards to ensure that women don't have to be responsible for the kids they produce.. on the other hand they make DAMN SURE that the man is held to account EVERY TIME. Whether or not it's his kid and whether or not the woman used deception to conceive it. I vote for legal paternal surrender or the right of the non-custodial parent (usually the father) to dump all legal reponsibilities to kids they don't want.



#10 Growled

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 16:35

.. on the other hand they make DAMN SURE that the man is held to account EVERY TIME. 

 

The man had a choice or whether to do the deed or not. If you father them, you are responsible. That said, so are the women. This is one reason I am against abortion. It makes it too easy on the mom. 



#11 Richteralan

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:53

[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"
[clang]
"Bring out your dead!"

 

"He says he's not dead!"
"Yes, he is."
"I'm not!"
"He isn't."
"Well, he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better!"
"No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment."

Sounds like something from Blackadder.



#12 Kriz

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 14:25

If hes legally dead he cant legally be arrested or trialled? Make the most of it i would :D



#13 Garnet H.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 20:32

Sounds like something from Blackadder.

 

Monty Python





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