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#1 +Frank B.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:41

Ever so often old topics are resurrected - most recent example: http://www.neowin.ne...3-specs-leaked/, which was inactive for 8 years.

 

I would suggest moving topics to a read-only archive section after, say, three years of inactivity. Thus you can still find the information while avoiding the resurrection of threads from ages ago. If the user has any questions related to the old thread he/she can start a new thread instead.




#2 Steven P.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:55

There is an archive option in 3.4.5 but we haven't enabled it yet.. it doesn't disable replies but we can add that.. I think the agreement was if a topic hadn't been replied to for x months.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:06

Hello,

Ever so often old topics are resurrected - most recent example: http://www.neowin.ne...3-specs-leaked/, which was inactive for 8 years.
 
I would suggest moving topics to a read-only archive section after, say, three years of inactivity. Thus you can still find the information while avoiding the resurrection of threads from ages ago. If the user has any questions related to the old thread he/she can start a new thread instead.

I dont think resurrecting threads is always a bad thing; News should be moved to a read-only section like you mentioned but other threads? I understand your point of view but it doesnt have any cons or pros closing a inactive thread.

My opinion.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:23

The problem with rehashing old threads is quite often the information contained in the thread is no longer valid - be it changes in tech, changes in the software, changes in hardware. People in the thread even the OP might have moved on - and no longer frequent neowin, etc. etc..

Now placing an arbitrary age to when this happens can be difficult - could be as little as a few months, to a year or 2.

Placing the thread of X days/months old into a read only mode seems logical, and might save the time of mods having to close threads that are responded too - quite often by spambots looking up keywords and adding garbage to them.

Then we have users that don't read the thread before they post and get it started again, etc. So the read only mode could be a time saver for the mods for sure.

If you have an issue that is related to a older thread - it is better to create a new thread with your current specifics and just reference that old thread.

My 2 cents on the matter.

#5 Dubstep Nixon

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:26

I'm going to come back in 10 years and bump this thread. :p



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:27

The problem with rehashing old threads is quite often the information contained in the thread is no longer valid - be it changes in tech, changes in the software, changes in hardware. People in the thread even the OP might have moved on - and no longer frequent neowin, etc. etc..

Now placing an arbitrary age to when this happens can be difficult - could be as little as a few months, to a year or 2.

Placing the thread of X days/months old into a read only mode seems logical, and might save the time of mods having to close threads that are responded too - quite often by spambots looking up keywords and adding garbage to them.

Then we have users that don't read the thread before they post and get it started again, etc. So the read only mode could be a time saver for the mods for sure.

If you have an issue that is related to a older thread - it is better to create a new thread with your current specifics and just reference that old thread.

My 2 cents on the matter.

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#7 Charisma

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:28

I can't tell you how many times I've been searching for an answer to a problem with some tech that isn't current, and I find a result, only to find that the topic has been closed and I end up in a labyrinth of link-clicking to find the ****ing answer.

 

I honestly don't see the problem with bringing up old threads--you might get an answer, there are one or two replies, and then it dies again. Why do people get so angry about it?



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:39

Good idea, Meph!

An archive section would be nice and would take some of the workload off the staff.  :)



#9 Lord Method Man

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:41

What so wrong about replying to an old thread?

 

Forum Overmoderation logic:

 

-Scold user for replying to an old thread with a relevant reply.

 

-Scold user for creating a new thread instead of posting in an existing one. "OMG lern 2 search!!1"



#10 Andre S.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:49

^Locking old topics would solve that problem nicely. People can't be accused of thread necromancy since it becomes impossible.

 

The problem with old threads is that the context is completely lost to everyone, who have to re-read everything. It's much better to simply start a new thread. Teamliquid.net works like that and I like it a lot more.



#11 Andre S.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:51

I honestly don't see the problem with bringing up old threads--you might get an answer, there are one or two replies, and then it dies again. Why do people get so angry about it?

Because it would have been better to start a new thread than to bring up an arbitrarily large number of posts that no one cares about anymore. Sometimes the OP isn't even around anymore and people start trying to answer his question, not realizing the age of the thread. It creates confusion and ridicule.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:51

"Why do people get so angry about it?"

Not sure anyone is getting angry about it? Quite often its funny to see someone respond to a thread that is years old trying to help the OP that has not posted in years either..

I would think read only would save moderation from having to delete spambots finding them and adding their crapware links..

What might be a good idea if possible?? That when you go to respond to a thread that is ?+ months/years old that you get notified of such.. Maybe even a captcha if the thread is really old warning the user that hey this thread has been dead for X days.. Might be better creating a new thread if your looking for active responses, this might prevent spambots from adding to the really old ones. Here is link to this thread you can use for reference in your new thread if this info related, etc.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:57

Having the reply box somehow alert the user that they are resurrecting an x year old thread could trim off a few accidental replies but still allow users to continue if they have something to add :)



#14 Charisma

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 16:59

Because it would have been better to start a new thread than to bring up an arbitrarily large number of posts that no one cares about anymore. Sometimes the OP isn't even around anymore and people start trying to answer his question, not realizing the age of the thread. It creates confusion and ridicule.

Maybe sometimes this happens, but not always. Why re-invent the wheel by having to re-look-for a fix, because the thread containing the fix and situation exists but is locked and harder to reference?

 

I guess one could backlink to an old thread when creating a new one, but some people won't take that extra step if they're having to create a new/dupe thread anyway.

 

 

Having the reply box somehow alert the user that they are resurrecting an x year old thread could trim off a few accidental replies but still allow users to continue if they have something to add :)

Now that's a good idea.



#15 +LimeMaster92

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 17:00

One reason I think bringing back old threads is bad because the OP might have followed the topic years ago meaning they will receive notifications for the topic, receiving replies made years later that don't apply to them anymore.





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