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#1 BetaAddict

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 20:05

General Motors is betting you will. It’s put a $75,995 price tag (including the $995 destination charge) on the Cadillac ELR — what’s essentially a two-door Chevrolet Volt with a handsome exterior and a leather-lined cabin.

The same T-shaped, 16.5 kWh lithium-ion battery pack in the Volt finds its way underneath the creased sheet metal of the ELR, as well as its 1.4-liter gasoline-powered range-extending engine. That allows the Caddy to motor along on electric power alone for up to 35 miles before the gasoline engine kicks in to juice up the pack and keep the ELR going for a claimed range of 300 miles.

Cadillac is touting the ELR’s 8-inch touchscreen powered by its CUE infotainment system — which two years in is still a buggy mess — along with a range of safety and convenience features, including lane departure warning, forward collision alert, and a 24-hour concierge service to answer questions. There’s also a “regen on demand” feature that allows the driver to boost the brake regeneration, slowing the vehicle and recouping energy by pulling on the flappy paddles behind the steering wheel.

GM’s bean counters are quick to point out that depending on what federal and state tax incentives buyers are eligible for, the net pricing could be as low as $68,495, but that’s still a tough sell considering you’re basically getting a Volt with more presence and less practicality.

By comparison, $70k will get you into the entry-level — but absolutely excellent — all-electric Tesla Model S, with a 208-mile range from its 60 kWh battery. That makes the ELR almost impossible to justify what Caddy is demanding. Here’s hoping we’re wrong. We’ll find out when sales begin in January.

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So to answer the writer's question...No.  GM can claim they have technology that could potentially be better than what Tesla has, but their execution of the product is their biggest problem as they continue to cut corners. The Volt and ELR both use most of the same design cues from their standard combustion engine cars. When someone buys an electric car, it's not because they want to save money on gas, which doesn't happen due the extra cost of the car. They want to be environmentally conscious while driving something different than the rest of the combustion engine cars so that they can stand out to make a statement. This is why even hybrid cars have failed to catch on except a few select models like the Prius. Until they design a car from ground up that is different from their existing models, it's never going to be as appealing as a Tesla. Even the ELR interior is no where near as sexy as Tesla's 17in touchscreen dashboard.




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Posted 11 October 2013 - 20:07

one word answer?

No!

 

reason?

The tesla Model S appeals to me more :p



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 21:10

Nope, no way in hell. The Tesla Model S is better in every regard: 

- Pure electric

- More electric range

- Tesla Supercharger network

- More practical

 

This is a hideous car - the design doesn't work on the coupe, it looks like they took a big car design and condensed into a coupe format - just does not work. No thank you GM



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 21:59

Sweet Jesus, that thing is ugly! You can make your own scarecrow for a lot less.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 22:02

The problem with electric cars is if you live in mountainous, colder areas where it snows, having an electric car may be impractical because the heat requires a lot of power, and the hills will further drain the battery.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 22:55

I wouldn't. If GM significantly dropped the price and improved the technology of the Volt / the ELR, I might consider it. Considering there is the Tesla Model S, which is more expensive but the technology is a lot better and it's not UGLY.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 23:35

So are they saying the gas tank size is only 1.4 litres and it's able to get a 300 mile range out of that due to the fact that it's an electric car with a small gasoline generator to recharge the batteries? 



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 23:40

Um...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 23:50

I like how they try to make its power look good:

 

 "Nail the throttle and you’ll send 207 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque (the same as a BMW M3) to the 20-inch front wheels. "

 

 

Except that, its missing 207 hp to really be compared to an M3.

 

Heck, my car makes almost that much torque, and an M3 would eat me alive.

 

 

"Cadillac isn’t citing performance numbers, but the 4,070-pound ELR should be good for mid-seven second run to 60 mph."

 

 

Yeah, a lot like an M3....



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 23:57

I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 23:23

No way!   While i do like some cadillac designs, this one is not that appealing considering!



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 23:28

I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA.

So if they made the above somewhere else, you would?



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 23:57

I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA.

/facepalm

 

Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there.

 

And some of you people need to read about the VOLT a bit more.  That car is fantastic.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 00:14

 

The problem with electric cars is if you live in mountainous, colder areas where it snows, having an electric car may be impractical because the heat requires a lot of power, and the hills will further drain the battery.

 

 

Yes but lots of extra regen braking on those same said "Hills" that us people that live in the flats don't get

 

/facepalm

 

Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there.

 

And some of you people need to read about the VOLT a bit more.  That car is fantastic.

 

True, the Volt is a fantastic car, ive test driven several and other than no noise you would not know it was an electric car, it is however far to expensive for what you get, fuel savings or not, base models for a 2013 Volt start at $42,000

 

I would rather spend $75,000 on a Model S than either a Volt or an ELR



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 00:36

Yes but lots of extra regen braking on those same said "Hills" that us people that live in the flats don't get

 

 

True, the Volt is a fantastic car, ive test driven several and other than no noise you would not know it was an electric car, it is however far to expensive for what you get, fuel savings or not, base models for a 2013 Volt start at $42,000

 

I would rather spend $75,000 on a Model S than either a Volt or an ELR

I wasn't comparing the 2 cars.  But I will, I guess. :p  They are both great cars in their own class.  With the Volt, you do not have that range anxiety like you do with the Model S.  The Volt, you'll never get stuck with no juice.  And it doesn't cost 42,000 after tax credit.  The Model S is great if you live in warm conditions, as a full electric, it needs warmer weather.   But the Model S cannot make long trips.  Its a very expensive town car.