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Alliance Boots, the owner of Boots the chemist, has avoided

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Capitalism.

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What's outrageous is that the law permits them to do this. Is it morally wrong? Sure. Legally? Nope. 

 

Yet people and the government will bitch and moan, and do nothing to close these loopholes. 

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What's outrageous is that the law permits them to do this. Is it morally wrong? Sure. Legally? Nope. 

 

Yet people and the government will bitch and moan, and do nothing to close these loopholes. 

 

I know right? A lot of talk of doing something but nothing ever happens because deep down inside they know some money is better than none, so the LEGAL tax loops stay open and anyone can use them if they so choose to do so

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And yet it's somehow more important to further screw the average contributor rather than pursue these corporates. Who's meant to be running the damned company... Sorry I meant country.

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What's outrageous is that the law permits them to do this. Is it morally wrong? Sure. Legally? Nope. 

 

Yet people and the government will bitch and moan, and do nothing to close these loopholes. 

That's a complete cop-out, as it excuses the wrongdoings committed by these corporations. If somebody committed murder and used a loophole to avoid prosecution people wouldn't be defending the murderer or the legality of the act, they'd be baying for blood and demanding justice.

 

Of course the government bears responsibility for the current situation but the matter is complicated by the nature of international tax law. It is difficult for reforms to be made without international cooperation. What is clear is that the current system isn't fit for purpose, as large multinationals are able to pay virtually no tax and undercut domestic businesses.

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That's a complete cop-out, as it excuses the wrongdoings committed by these corporations. If somebody committed murder and used a loophole to avoid prosecution people wouldn't be defending the murderer or the legality of the act, they'd be baying for blood and demanding justice.

 

Of course the government bears responsibility for the current situation but the matter is complicated by the nature of international tax law. It is difficult for reforms to be made without international cooperation. What is clear is that the current system isn't fit for purpose, as large multinationals are able to pay virtually no tax and undercut domestic businesses.

 

 

By the letter of the law, they are doing nothing wrong. I don't think murder is a valid comparison, its too clear cut. I'm not defending their morals. But they're doing nothing illegal. Instead of everyone just moaning and doing nothing, how about the government see the loopholes these companies expose, and then fix them?

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By the letter of the law, they are doing nothing wrong. I don't think murder is a valid comparison, its too clear cut. I'm not defending their morals. But they're doing nothing illegal. Instead of everyone just moaning and doing nothing, how about the government see the loopholes these companies expose, and then fix them?

I agree that the responsibility ultimately lies with the government but I think it is perfectly justified to criticise the actions of these businesses and would argue that it is in fact necessary to do so. The public outrage at Starbucks led to the company pay corporation tax for the first time in five years. I just feel it is wrong to excuse the actions of these corporations on the basis that what they're doing isn't technically illegal.

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UK PM David Cameron is trying to fix the loopholes, but as you say, it takes international cooperation to fix it properly.  Still, from what I understand, they're making some headway against the problem as it's not just the UK where these companies are getting away with it.

 

Until then, naming and shaming is just about the only option for dealing with these people in any half effective manner.

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