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#16 The_Observer

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 21:46

Then I recall incorrectly...but my point is still that, paid services can still have ads.

 

Yes this is true, but there needs to be a balance, i bought a game console, not a media console. I am still looking at the xboxone and think there are some great things about it but the PS4 for now is what im getting.




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Posted 15 October 2013 - 21:50

Yes this is true, but there needs to be a balance, i bought a game console, not a media console. I am still looking at the xboxone and think there are some great things about it but the PS4 for now is what im getting.

 

Sorry to say but Xbox One is basically a media console. Also, we have to wait to see how it can be used as I recall during the Xbox One reveal, everyone's homescreen looks different because each one is customized.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 21:50

cloud - welcome to the "internet"

kinect - webcam and microphone (listening all the time...can even pick you out of a crowd. sup NSA)

record - sup fraps

nice UI - basically windows 8...but without the rest of the Win8 advantages

built the platform like a PC - except without the upgradeability.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 21:53

Sorry to say but Xbox One is basically a media console. Also, we have to wait to see how it can be used as I recall during the Xbox One reveal, everyone's homescreen looks different because each one is customized.

 

.Guess ill have to wait till release day. Its going to be this or ps4 or steambox.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 00:05

i think your missing my main point, when i turn on my xbox360 i dont want to see ads on the first screen i come to! i want a nice clean screen showing my installed games, last game i played and maybe future games. i dont care about movies and music, or apps on my xbox, i have a other devices for that. Look at this screen show of the first screen this comes to,

 

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I see ads for movies tvshows something called upload studio, i thought i was using a game console! Biggest picture should be the game i last played, there should be games i have installed and maybe games in the market place and upcoming games,

 

 

 

Ok first of all, you must have missed the prior announcements and videos of the dash because that first screen is all about showing what you have been using on the console.  That huge square would be showing the last thing you did on the console, be it a game, a movie, and app, etc.  The other squares around it are all things the users has run on the console and then of course the rectangle to the left is your profile. 

 

The ONLY section that is an ad would be the section to the far right, 'What's New on Xbox One'.  Everything else you see will change based on how YOU use the system. 

 

So if you compare that to the 360 dash, you'll see the did just as you asked:  They kept the home screen devoid of ads and focused on what your doing with your system, moving recommendations to the far side. Even those recommendations are suppose to reflect your buying habits over time.  So if your buying games, you'll see more of that recommended. 

 

 

 

It doesn't just stop at movies; Mountain Dew, Doritos, Linx / AXE, McDonalds, Honda, Adidas... the list goes on.

 

Microsoft have been sneaking ads in over the years and it's starting to take the ****.

 

 

Please, lets at least try to be fair about this and look at what MS is showing and saying.  They seem to have heard the criticism and made changes for the better.  I mean don't you see the changes?

 

I really don't know what else it would take to prove that point. I have no doubt that both MS and Sony will push ads to all users, but I also think both are trying to be smarter about it and confine it to marketplace sections or offer it as smart recommendations.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 01:09

As I mentioned in the other thread, I think I'm looking forward to every feature in that video.  I think when you combine them all, it makes for a better all-around experience than the PS4 will offer.  I'm real excited about it - they're making it harder every day to live with my decision not to get it at launch...



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:16

I love how people twist featured content into advertisements. Unlike a couple here, me and the general population love seeing what's new on the market place in an non-intrusive fashion because I actually look to see what content & games interest me on my device. It's not like its showing that double cheeseburgers for £1.49 is it? Come on..

 

UI looks fantastic, can really see its final quality coming through.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:09

Everything looks good, I suppose. The console seems a lot like facebook to me, and not just in the UI design. I'm a privacy fan and this just seems too open to me. I certainly won't purchase one in 2013, undecided after that.

 

Every new console release is about progressing technology forward, but to me, saying "built for the future" would include somewhat futureproofing it... That would mean that the console has expandable drives, which I doubted but had some hope for when I saw the title. It could at least ditch the proprietary hardware choices, but that wouldn't be very MS. Alas, the console is built so that you will buy a new one in 5 years. Meh.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:16

cloud - welcome to the "internet"

kinect - webcam and microphone (listening all the time...can even pick you out of a crowd. sup NSA)

record - sup fraps

nice UI - basically windows 8...but without the rest of the Win8 advantages

built the platform like a PC - except without the upgradeability.

 

I could point out how every one of your points are wrong or invalid, but it's basically summed up by "you don't really know what you'r talking about and have been listening to to many mis-informed conspiracy theorists"



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:24

Everything looks good, I suppose. The console seems a lot like facebook to me, and not just in the UI design. I'm a privacy fan and this just seems too open to me. I certainly won't purchase one in 2013, undecided after that.

 

Every new console release is about progressing technology forward, but to me, saying "built for the future" would include somewhat futureproofing it... That would mean that the console has expandable drives, which I doubted but had some hope for when I saw the title. It could at least ditch the proprietary hardware choices, but that wouldn't be very MS. Alas, the console is built so that you will buy a new one in 5 years. Meh.

 

ummm you can close down privacy completely, not share anything with anyone, not even have friends, disable kinect completely, so in what way is this to open ?

 

The xbox is built for the future just like the 360 was, a first gen xbox right out of the box today, you can start up and have an old dated UI, less performance and usability and functions. hook it up to the internet and grab the latest update and you have a system that is faster with a modern responsive UI. 

 

that is what they mean by built for the future, it's built to support future technology, they rely less on hardcoded hardware functions and on software function that can be upgraded and changed with time or upgraded as needed.

 

hardware wise it can also be upgraded since it FULLY supports external disks for EVERYTHING so you don't need to replace the internal drive. 



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:03

I'm just not feeling it. It'll be a wait and see situation for me.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:30

ummm you can close down privacy completely, not share anything with anyone, not even have friends, disable kinect completely, so in what way is this to open ?

 

The xbox is built for the future just like the 360 was, a first gen xbox right out of the box today, you can start up and have an old dated UI, less performance and usability and functions. hook it up to the internet and grab the latest update and you have a system that is faster with a modern responsive UI. 

 

that is what they mean by built for the future, it's built to support future technology, they rely less on hardcoded hardware functions and on software function that can be upgraded and changed with time or upgraded as needed.

 

hardware wise it can also be upgraded since it FULLY supports external disks for EVERYTHING so you don't need to replace the internal drive. 

 

 

Microsofts PR team has screwed (Yusuf during the reveal anyone?) up and now people have really bad misconceptions of the XB1.  Microsoft has been doing a better job of letting the Engineers speak on whats going on (something they should have done from the beginning), but I wonder if the damage that Mattrick and Yusuf caused, will linger longer than what we initially thought.

 

Myself personally, am totally geek'd out and can't wait for the XB1...  



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 13:39

I could point out how every one of your points are wrong or invalid, but it's basically summed up by "you don't really know what you'r talking about and have been listening to to many mis-informed conspiracy theorists"

Go on then



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 14:39

Go on then

 

I don't really bother arguing with obvious trolls who arne't going to listen to what I say anyway. all the info is readily available if you read ANY of the articles or news about Xbox one since summer though. 



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 15:04

Everything looks good, I suppose. The console seems a lot like facebook to me, and not just in the UI design. I'm a privacy fan and this just seems too open to me. I certainly won't purchase one in 2013, undecided after that.

 

Every new console release is about progressing technology forward, but to me, saying "built for the future" would include somewhat futureproofing it... That would mean that the console has expandable drives, which I doubted but had some hope for when I saw the title. It could at least ditch the proprietary hardware choices, but that wouldn't be very MS. Alas, the console is built so that you will buy a new one in 5 years. Meh.

 

 

Well I'm in a similar boat as you, someone that has no interest in all of these social features.  Unfortunately, both Sony and MS are pushing social features as the next big thing for consoles, so if your a console gamer, its hard to avoid.

 

MS went down the line showing that you could avoid all of this stuff via settings, so at least we can avoid this stuff.  I'm sure Sony will have similar controls. 

 

I'm not sure how a replaceable hard drive would make a console future proof since that is probably the least important part of a console performance wise.  I would like to be able to replace drives like on the ps4, but I also realize that replacing a hard drive did not make the ps3 anymore future proof.   The hardware in both consoles will still be obsolete in a couple years.