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#46 AR556

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 23:10

But what do you need the 8.1 ISO for? If you don't have a real key for it, you can't activate it. I don't know if the 8.0 keys are still activating at this time on a Windows 8.1 upgrade from the Technet/MSDN ISO. The Technet/MSDN ISO's issue new keys for subscribers.

 

If you had 8.0 with your system, then you upgrade via the store if you need to reload.

If you have 8.1 with your system, then you just install the 300mb GA updates and anything after this time and you are good to go.

Oh I dunno :rolleyes:

 

1. You have to re-install

2. You bought the upgrade version and don't want to install 7, 8, then 8.1

3. You don't want to wait hours for he 8.1 update to install.

4. You want your install to be as clean as possible.

5. Because its dumb as hell for not offering a standalone offline installer.




#47 ViperAFK

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 23:35

But what do you need the 8.1 ISO for? If you don't have a real key for it, you can't activate it. I don't know if the 8.0 keys are still activating at this time on a Windows 8.1 upgrade from the Technet/MSDN ISO. The Technet/MSDN ISO's issue new keys for subscribers.

 

If you had 8.0 with your system, then you upgrade via the store if you need to reload.

If you have 8.1 with your system, then you just install the 300mb GA updates and anything after this time and you are good to go.

You can use a placeholder key during the install, and activate it post install with your real 8.0 key. worked for me when I did a clean install.

 

Anyway, I completely agree with AR556. Its completely ridiculous that they don't provide a proper ISO for a clean install, and its also ridiculous that it doesn't just accept windows 8 keys in the installer. Its a free upgrade from windows 8, and activates fine with a windows 8 key post install anyway, so why the hell does is even have its own keys that are necessary for the offline installer? Its completely arbitrary.

 

Why the hell would you want to clean install windows 8 and then waste a bunch of time upgrading to 8.1 over it when we can just clean install straight from 8.1? These are just pointlessly arbitrary restrictions from microsoft. /rant



#48 xendrome

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 23:37

You can use a placeholder key during the install, and activate it post install with your real 8.0 key. worked for me when I did a clean install.

 

Yes, but did you try this and activate it after the 17th? Did it still activate with the Windows 8.0 key vs a true 8.1 key?

 

The first key you had to use actually was a 8.1 key, that got you in the setup. The 2nd key you used was your Windows 8.0 key and activated it with that, the question is.. are the activation servers still accepting Windows 8.0 keys for the activation after the setup. Or have they disabled that and are only accepting Windows 8.1 keys now.

 

Can anyone confirm?



#49 ViperAFK

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 23:41

Yes, but did you try this and activate it after the 17th? Did it still activate with the Windows 8.0 key vs a true 8.1 key?

 

The first key you had to use actually was a 8.1 key, that got you in the setup. The 2nd key you used was your Windows 8.0 key and activated it with that, the question is.. are the activation servers still accepting Windows 8.0 keys for the activation after the setup. Or have they disabled that and are only accepting Windows 8.1 keys now.

 

Can anyone confirm?

Yep, i'm aware the placeholder key I used during install was a windows 8.1 key :)

 

I used a real windows 8 key to activate post-install, in fact its even an 'upgrade' key, activated fine. I activated it on oct 17th (around 11:00pm eastern time). What relevance does the date have?

 

It would be pretty ridiculous if they stopped accepting windows 8 keys, again considering its a free upgrade from windows 8, that would mean more arbitrary bull**** from microsoft. Don't bill it as a free upgrade if there's so many strings attatched, I'd rather they offer a cheap 20 dollar upgrade and give us a proper key or something :/ if that was the case...



#50 remco8264

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 23:47

I was able to activate 8.1 with an 8.0 key on Oct. 18th. But shouldn't the activation servers always accept 8.0 keys? I mean, doesn't Windows also activate itself automatically when you upgrade through the Store?



#51 Raa

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 00:01

So if the MSDN/Technet ISOs don't upgrade from 7 to 8.1, is the only way to upgrade 7 -> 8.0 -> 8.1?

(Without doing a clean install)



#52 xendrome

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:31

So if the MSDN/Technet ISOs don't upgrade from 7 to 8.1, is the only way to upgrade 7 -> 8.0 -> 8.1?

(Without doing a clean install)

 

 

AFAIK Windows 7 to 8.1 is supported, you just have to reinstall your apps, so it's not a real upgrade. But it has nothing to do with specific ISO's being MSDN/Technet, it's just the way MS made it.



#53 +ians18

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:36

I was able to activate 8.1 with an 8.0 key on Oct. 18th. But shouldn't the activation servers always accept 8.0 keys? I mean, doesn't Windows also activate itself automatically when you upgrade through the Store?

Yes it does. At least as far as I know, I only use 8 RT and 8 "regular" it should be same for pro.