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#16 Phemo

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:25

He is talking about things like Netflix. 

 

I don't know if that has been confirmed as requiring Gold on the X1 yet, but since it was that way for the 360, it could be again.

 

Ah yes, a fair point  :)




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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:34

At launch, no.  I have my xbox one preordered and I figure I'll spend some time at launch playing that and then eventually pick up a PS4 when a game I need to play (Uncharted) comes out.  My gametime is limited at the moment (2 young kids) so shelling out the $900 within 2 weeks is unnecessary. 



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:40

If I was buying a console based on the fact that I didn't like the other console, I would rethink my buying plans completely, maybe just use a pc. Its like 'Hey, the X1 sucks, so I think I'll buy a ps4'

It's not so much that.. as:  "I want to get a new console, both are reasonably specc'd, lots of games are going to be cross platform, what are justifications for buying one over the other."

Like you could say: "I want good graphics"  Well.. both have good graphics.  "I want Bluray"  well.. both have blu ray.  However it is easy to list things about the other that you don't like, versus what you do like.  

 

I prefer the PS4 controller -> Means I don't like the one controller,

I prefer the PS4 interface -> Means I don't like metro,

I prefer the PS4 lineup -> Means the one's games don't interest me.  
I prefer the PS4 price -> Means 100$ extra bugs me about the one.

Then comes in how the 100$ is for Kinect, which I won't use (won't get ps eye either)
With Kinect comes the focus on voice recognition:  Which again I won't use
With voice recognition comes a bunch of media based features which I don't want
I get a lot of extra stuff I don't want and will never use, with the One and there are a lot of other aspects I don't like.

See, using a comparison I can give better justification, and can give more reasons as to why I went the way I did.
 

 

 
Personally, I have a list of reasons why I want a ps4 and they don't have anything to do with what MS is doing with the X1.  The ps4 can stand on its own without the comparison.  I'm not saying don't compare them, but does that have to happen in every thread?  X1 threads go to heck because people want to argue for the ps4 and ps4 threads go to heck because people want to argue for the X1.

 

 

I agree, however when it comes down to it.. the PS4 and One are the ones to compare.  They are the big names, they are coming at the same time, and they are the fuel for this round of Consoles.

I could compare to the Wii U but.. that isn't a valid comparison.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:43

I agree, but what's that in reference to?  I'm hoping you don't mean online play since you'll need to pay for PS Plus to play PS4 online.

 

I mean things like Netflix, and various other services offered for free on Playstation that aren't free on Xbox.  Granted I am going to buy PSN+ and such for the PS4.. however I don't know if I will keep PSN+ so to lose the ability to watch netflix on it due to not having that subscription (though I still pay netflix) would be annoying.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:53

I'm getting one mainly because i was disappointed with the 360.

 

I owned a NES and was totally satisfied.

I owned a SNES and was totally satisfied.

I owned a Playstation and was totally satisfied.

I owned an XBox and was totally satisfied.

 

Then i went for the 360 and it is actually the first console i owned and disliked. I mostly never use it. For one none of the consoles listed above broke on me. I actually had 2 defective XBox 360 (RRoD and HDMI port). Also i was kinda disappointed with the lineup. I have a good PC and most of the titles avalaible on 360 were also avalaible on PC. Steam is getting better and better and it is bringing me back to PC gaming. Journey looked like a great game. This is the type of games i want to play on consoles not CoD 17 or generic Ubisoft title number 16. XBox Live was great on the XBox cause back then online gaming on Nintendo ans Sony side sucked balls. Now that PSN+ is better the advantage of XBox Live is not as great as it used to be. I'm kinda done with "this feature is not avalaible in Canada" part of XBox Live. I don't think it's gonna be better on Sony side but i'm willing to at least give them a chance with the free monthly games rental at least i'll have something for my money. XBox Live right now in canada is a glorified friend list with a matchmaking system for 60$ a year. Totally not worth it. I know MS plans to add dedicated servers, teh cloud and free games but it's too tale for me my decision is taken i'll give Sony a chance next gen and hope the PS4 has quirky japanese games like the PS3 had. That's what i'm looking for ultimately i could not care less about CoD, Madden or Tom Clancy.

 

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Sorry if it looks like an XBox rant more than a list of reasons why i plan to get a PS4 but the truth is i did not own a PS2 and PS3. I used a fiend's PS2 here and there but i actually never used a PS3. So it's hard for me to list features i like about the PS4 since i've not been following sony side for a while now. But here's an attempt to a list of the reasons why i did not buy a PS3 and why i plan to buy a PS4.

 

1. I hated the Dual Shock when i had a PS. The PS3 Dual Shock looked even worse. I like the changes made to the PS4 controller and i think those changes will make the controller enjoyable for me.

2. PSN+ is getting better and i'm getting tired of online gaming anyway. At 37 yo with a gf and a kid i just don't have the will, time and skills anymore to compete online.

3. I have a good PC and i really love Steam. I found myself getting back to PC gaming lately and i play most multiplatform titles on PC these days. My PC is in a work room and it's easier to have a bit of peace there.

4. I miss the quirky japanese titles and i can't play them on PC. I believe i have more chances to get to play some of them on the PS4.

5. I believe more in the future of Smart TV than Smart Console. I don't want to pay 100$ for features i wont use and/or not avalaible in canada anyway.

 

That's it sorry for the rant of the original post.

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#21 Shadrack

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 17:54

I'll be getting a PS4 as an upgrade from my XBox 360 sometime next year.  Primary reason for me is I'm tired of paying $60/year to play online and watch Amazon Prime Instant Watch. 

 

I'm actually on my 4th XBox 360s since 2005.  First one RRoD on me, MS repaired as it was under warranty.  Second one the video went out and it was out-of-warranty so I had to buy a new one.  That new one lasted until about the beginning of this year, and then the optical drive stopped working.  So now I'm on my fourth XBox 360.  Not too happy about how many consoles I've gone through, but it isn't my primary reason for switching to Sony next year.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 18:07

I hate the PS controller and like the games better on Xbox, so I'll be going with the One.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 18:28

Last generation I bought both, but this generation I am not so sure. The bluray difference last generation made the PS4 an easy decision but this generation it really has no advantages and is missing the TV Pass-through and Kinect features. Maybe once they have a great game I will cave in but as of now, I am waiting.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 18:32

i'm getting a ps4 (not at launch but at some point) for a few reasons

 

1. the kinect has 0 appeal to me

2. the only exclusive on Xbox that i care about is the Halo series and that's honestly not enough to sway me

3. i personally prefer to PS controller over the Xbox (in the current gen. and i'm betting the same will be true for me in this new gen)

 

i've been a PC gamer this gen (don't own a 360 or PS3). so if i do get a console this next gen I'm right now leaning towards to PS4

 

will be at least 6 months after release before i make a solid decision though (i've only ever bought hand-helds at/near lauch)



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 18:36

I will be buying the PS4 because it can stand/play vertically, I will not be buying the Xbox one because it cannot.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 19:32

 

It's not so much that.. as:  "I want to get a new console, both are reasonably specc'd, lots of games are going to be cross platform, what are justifications for buying one over the other."

Like you could say: "I want good graphics"  Well.. both have good graphics.  "I want Bluray"  well.. both have blu ray.  However it is easy to list things about the other that you don't like, versus what you do like.  

 

I prefer the PS4 controller -> Means I don't like the one controller,

I prefer the PS4 interface -> Means I don't like metro,

I prefer the PS4 lineup -> Means the one's games don't interest me.  
I prefer the PS4 price -> Means 100$ extra bugs me about the one.

Then comes in how the 100$ is for Kinect, which I won't use (won't get ps eye either)
With Kinect comes the focus on voice recognition:  Which again I won't use
With voice recognition comes a bunch of media based features which I don't want
I get a lot of extra stuff I don't want and will never use, with the One and there are a lot of other aspects I don't like.

 

 Your first two paragraphs could summarize my post. And I'm with you about the extra $100 bucks for something i should consider to buy and not forced to do it.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 19:39

It's not so much that.. as:  "I want to get a new console, both are reasonably specc'd, lots of games are going to be cross platform, what are justifications for buying one over the other."

Like you could say: "I want good graphics"  Well.. both have good graphics.  "I want Bluray"  well.. both have blu ray.  However it is easy to list things about the other that you don't like, versus what you do like.  
 
I prefer the PS4 controller -> Means I don't like the one controller,
I prefer the PS4 interface -> Means I don't like metro,
I prefer the PS4 lineup -> Means the one's games don't interest me.  
I prefer the PS4 price -> Means 100$ extra bugs me about the one.
Then comes in how the 100$ is for Kinect, which I won't use (won't get ps eye either)
With Kinect comes the focus on voice recognition:  Which again I won't use
With voice recognition comes a bunch of media based features which I don't want
I get a lot of extra stuff I don't want and will never use, with the One and there are a lot of other aspects I don't like.

See, using a comparison I can give better justification, and can give more reasons as to why I went the way I did.



For someone that is a fan of the ps4, you sure do take the time to make it about the things you don't like on the X1. I get that your saying you must compare to the X1 in order to justify your purchase, but the reality is that those things you listed do not really give the PS4 much credit.

I have yet to see you simply list the things you like about the Ps4. What about Gaikai? What about PS+? What about the sharing features or the improvements to the controller? What about the game dvr feature, or the social integration, etc, etc. Talk about the games that are drawing you in. I mean get specific here.

I'm not sure what your intention is, but I would love to see people lay out specifically why they want a ps4 (or any console) and not turn it into a why they don't like the X1 discussion. You think you have to justify the things you like by explaining what you don't like about the competition, but to me, you just need to be more specific about what draws you to your choice. If anyone bashes you for that, well they are just fanboy trolls that fill the internet.

The reason I want a ps4 has little do with the X1. Now maybe that's just because I actually buy more than one console in a generation (not at launch, but over time). Maybe others plan to only own one for the entire generation and that's cool. As I said before, you have to compare the two when trying to pick between them. I just thought this thread would be different. A chance to share what we like about the PS4 on its own. The features we want to use, the games we want to play, etc.
 
 

 

I agree, however when it comes down to it.. the PS4 and One are the ones to compare.  They are the big names, they are coming at the same time, and they are the fuel for this round of Consoles.

I could compare to the Wii U but.. that isn't a valid comparison.


I know, if you are personally trying to pick between them, you have to compare. But this thread wasn't really worded that way. It was about what makes the PS4 good, not which is better.

Its like trying to tell someone why they should buy a ps4 vs a gaming pc or vs not buying one at all. Tell me what it does that makes it worth $400. That kind of thing. Maybe that helps people hear about features or games they didn't know about.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 19:43

Your first two paragraphs could summarize my post. And I'm with you about the extra $100 bucks for something i should consider to buy and not forced to do it.


Hey I think that's a perfectly valid reason to pick one over the other. Why buy a console that includes things you don't want for an extra cost vs a console that doesn't? If the prices were the same, than it wouldn't be a point of argument and people that aren't interested in extras now would be willing to take them. But its not and so we have the choice.

Again, my only point was that there are lots of VS threads, it would have just been nice to see more responses about what specifically makes the ps4 a great console. The price tag can certainly be a reason, but there are lots of other things.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 20:07

I'm getting a One because of its media capabilities to be used as a streaming box, also for when all the family kids come over to play on.

 

PC is where it's at for the real games.

It seems a good reason to me too.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 20:15

Yes

PlayStation 4 > Xbox One

IMHO!