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#61 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 20:33

Nice! Did Microsoft send you those beta discs back in the day or what? Good review btw. :)




#62 Nick H.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:58

But no one uses it anymore. It's not the main feature of the OS like it was. It's been regulated to a tool advanced users use to perform small tasks not easily performed in the GUI.

I use the command prompt all the time. Granted, I wouldn't class myself as your normal user, but my point was more that the command prompt has not disappeared. It is readily available for those that want it. We have a choice. If we want to use it we can, but at the same time the average user still has their desktop for a more GUI-friendly view. This is why I struggle to understand the idea that we are being forced away from our traditional desktop for the tablet OS instead of just being given the choice. As Apple have shown, you can have a mobile OS and a desktop OS that work together perfectly fine.

Anyway, I'm going to get hold of a copy of 8.1 sometime in the next few days and give it a go. However, like fusi0n I don't think I'll ever be really able to get involved with this direction Microsoft has chosen.

#63 Dot Matrix

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:02

I use the command prompt all the time. Granted, I wouldn't class myself as your normal user, but my point was more that the command prompt has not disappeared. It is readily available for those that want it. We have a choice. If we want to use it we can, but at the same time the average user still has their desktop for a more GUI-friendly view. This is why I struggle to understand the idea that we are being forced away from our traditional desktop for the tablet OS instead of just being given the choice. As Apple have shown, you can have a mobile OS and a desktop OS that work together perfectly fine.

Anyway, I'm going to get hold of a copy of 8.1 sometime in the next few days and give it a go. However, like fusi0n I don't think I'll ever be really able to get involved with this direction Microsoft has chosen.


The command prompt is to the desktop in Windows 8.... Buried inside another operating environment. You're looking at Windows 8 as a mobile OS, but what Metro is doing is allowing Windows to scale to any device - big or small. Apple devices are limited by using an upscaled operating system. I can't do nearly the amount of things on an iPad as I can do on my Surface. I can then hop to my laptop or desktop without loosing my workflow. The Metro environment also is beginning to fix many of the grievances the decaying Win32 environment has - sandboxing apps, unified control panel, etc.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:08

Nice! Did Microsoft send you those beta discs back in the day or what? Good review btw. :)

Thanks and Yes! I have lots.. lol



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 20:33

Used 8.0 for a day or two a couple months after it was released.  I didnt like it.  Been on 8.1 (Enterprise, at work) for a couple days and it is a large improvement.  I can live with it now.  Still a little ways to go for my liking, but it isnt horrible.  Still do not like the start screen.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 20:49

My problem with Windows 8 isn't so much the lack of start menu, it's when you hit the windows button you get blinded by this blue/purple screen.

This is even worse if you have multiple monitors. Say you're watching a video on one screen and you just want to launch another app to work on, bam, video gone whilst you search for whatever it is you're looking for

I only really use the start menu for launching apps, it brings up a discrete search bar where I can launch practically anything.

I do the same in OS X (cmd + space) which at times I prefer because I can do quick simple calculations too!

 

Microsoft has created a touch-screen OS for desktops, and it just isn't working



#67 Dot Matrix

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 20:52

My problem with Windows 8 isn't so much the lack of start menu, it's when you hit the windows button you get blinded by this blue/purple screen.

This is even worse if you have multiple monitors. Say you're watching a video on one screen and you just want to launch another app to work on, bam, video gone whilst you search for whatever it is you're looking for

I only really use the start menu for launching apps, it brings up a discrete search bar where I can launch practically anything.

I do the same in OS X (cmd + space) which at times I prefer because I can do quick simple calculations too!

 

Microsoft has created a touch-screen OS for desktops, and it just isn't working

Then launch the start screen on the other monitor. You can invoke it on any monitor you have running. Also, you can customize it so it's not purple anymore. 



#68 richardsim7

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 22:59

Then launch the start screen on the other monitor. You can invoke it on any monitor you have running. Also, you can customize it so it's not purple anymore. 

Have they changed it so that it doesn't launch on all screens at once?



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 00:23

Have they changed it so that it doesn't launch on all screens at once?

 

Yup. It doesn't blank out or affect what's on the other monitor anymore, either. I run Skype on my second monitor while I'm gaming.



#70 Dot Matrix

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 00:26

Have they changed it so that it doesn't launch on all screens at once?

Yeah, metro is now able to run independently of your monitors.



#71 richardsim7

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 11:14

Hmm, even so, I don't like that it takes up the whole screen rather than a tiny search bar



#72 AR556

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:12

Upon installing 8.1 I played around with the start screen for awhile, said Meh....still hate you and proceeded to re-install Start8. Once thats done, I like it better than 7. I just wish they hadn't removed disc imaging and the ability to have "Previous Versions" on a single HDD setup.



#73 Nazmus Shakib Khandaker

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 15:17

An excellent post. Really enjoyed reading your thread! Thanks for sharing!

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 15:28

that's not really a fair comparison as that was all that was available then

 

the Surface & WP is coming in at at time with those products you mentioned already saturate the market. people go with what they know works. they don't often chance trying something new when it costs a bit of money

 

I keep hearing that excuse but the reality is if it were a compelling product it would sell on it's own merit. It isn't, it's selling slowly. The public are speaking.

 

For supposed nerd and geeks you all are really making a bigger deal out of win 8/8.1 than it is, you've lost no control of your system, hell with 8.1 you can just load into the Desktop and not see the Start Screen and completely ignore it if you want, you can install a program to bring back the dumb Start Menu so many are so attached to for some reason, AND you've gained a faster and better OS in the process

 

You all need to stop being such luddites, set aside you irrational hatred of change and realize Win 8.1 is actually really nice 

 

Yes, how silly of us? How dare we voice our own dislike. Because someone else likes it we should just take their word for it and go along with the crowd. Obviously you know more about my usability needs than I do

 

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#75 Richard C.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 18:53

For supposed nerd and geeks you all are really making a bigger deal out of win 8/8.1 than it is, you've lost no control of your system, hell with 8.1 you can just load into the Desktop and not see the Start Screen and completely ignore it if you want, you can install a program to bring back the dumb Start Menu so many are so attached to for some reason, AND you've gained a faster and better OS in the process

 

You all need to stop being such luddites, set aside you irrational hatred of change and realize Win 8.1 is actually really nice 

 

 

I keep hearing that excuse but the reality is if it were a compelling product it would sell on it's own merit. It isn't, it's selling slowly. The public are speaking.

 

 

Yes, how silly of us? How dare we voice our own dislike. Because someone else likes it we should just take their word for it and go along with the crowd. Obviously you know more about my usability needs than I do

 

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This is quickly becoming an argument, can we stop this now please.