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#1 Showan

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:36

Sony has spoken out about early designs for the DualShock 4, revealing it considered adopting the Xbox 360 controller's stick placement.

In an interview with GamesBeat, Sony head of product planning Toshimasa Aoki spoke out about what the company was attempting to achieve with such a move and why, ultimately, it was abandoned.


"For the analog sticks, we did test having the analog sticks on top, since the Xbox has the left side on top [above the D-pad]," he said. "Especially from the shooter teams — we got feedback that that’s what they wanted. They knew that consumers liked the 360 for shooters."


The management team really felt that having this look is the PlayStation look, and we had to keep that.

What followed was a period of experimentation that saw the two sticks moved around the controller in pretty much every combination imaginable. There was even a version similar to the Wii U's Pro Controller with both sticks on top, though the company quickly abandoned this as it was decided PlayStation and Xbox gamers were too used to having buttons up there; fiddling with the right side too much could be disastrous.

Considering the vast range of improvement that studios were suggesting, in the end Sony had to instigate a simple rule of majority. Some developers were knee-deep in game development for the PS4 so had a clear idea of what would work for their games, though this could cause problems for others. So unless around 80 percent of the feedback agreed upon a change, it wasn't done.

Ultimately, traditional placement won out. Aoki explained, "The feedback from the user test team said that we needed to test this version, the Xbox version, and this version. [But having the two sticks symmetrical on the left and right sides] is kind of in our DNA. The prototype team, myself, and also the management team really felt that having this look is the PlayStation look, and we had to keep that."


The PlayStation 4 will be available in North America on November 15 and in Europe on November 29. In case you miss it yesterday, the company released a nostalgic UK-focused short film, looking at how the brand has impacted our lives since 1995.


http://www.ign.com/a...lar-to-xbox-360


#2 Nick H.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:38

Phew. I've always found the Xbox controller difficult to use compared to the Playstation controller, so I'm glad the majority won.

#3 Vandalsquad

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:21

 

During development of the PlayStation 4 hardware, Sony experimented with a DualShock 4 controller design that was similar to Xbox 360, manager of the product planning department Toshimasa Aoki told GamesBeat.

"For the analog sticks, we did test having the analog sticks on top, since the Xbox has the left side on top [above the D-pad]," Aoki told GamesBeat "Especially from the shooter teams — we got feedback that that's what they wanted. They knew that consumers liked the 360 for shooters."

"The feedback from the user test team said that we needed to test this version, the Xbox version, and this version," said Aoki. "[But having the two sticks symmetrical on the left and right sides] is kind of in our DNA. The prototype team, myself, and also the management team really felt that having this look is the PlayStation look, and we had to keep that."

 

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#4 Nick H.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:23

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#5 Torolol

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:33

if its a FPS xbox 360 controllers win,

but for others genre I prefer the traditional PlayStation controllers.

 

but of course nothing can beat Keyboard+Mouse for FPS



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:41

I wish they had went with the 360 design. I find it more comfortable. 



#7 DPyro

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:56

Changing the control layout would have alienated their consumer base. I sure as hell don't like the 360 design.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 13:56

So, they didn't modify the design because management realized it would look bad and hurt the brand image. They put brand over actual ergonomics. Why would Sony even go on record with something like this?



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:02

While i prefer the xbox sticks placement I don't mind the sticks placement of the dual shocks that much to be honest.

 

What i did hate about the old Dual Shocks is the sticks were too close to each other and were too slippery. From what i understand they are now father from each other and have a cancave shape on top. This will imo make the controller prefectly usable. The controller was part of my decision to buy a 360 over a PS3. This gen the controller wont be a factor from the information i can gather right now.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:06

i prefer the stick layout as is on PS myself. for those that prefer the xbox layout there are plenty of 3rd party controllers with that layout for the PS3 (shouldn't be too long before that's true with the PS4 as well)



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:08

I like the PS controller so much in its exact layout. Changing the sticks to the upper part, ala X1 would completely ruin a controller that excels in every game category and that does a regular to nice job on FPS, it is no wonder that most of the FPS players prefer the tumbsticks above the POV, however real FPS players use keyboard and mouse. I will buy a PS4 controller when this gets PS Vita compatibility or Full PC compatibility, because at the moment I have a DualShock 3 for PC games that require it.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:21

That's unfortunate, as the PS controllers have been awful in my personal experience, ever since the first Dual Shock. Even on my PS3,  I always choose xbox for multiplatform games as I don't want to have the cramps I get from those piddly little sticks in the wrong place



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:24

Would it not be possible to simply produce both types of controllers? The DualShock 4 FPS and DualShock 4 Original?



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:32

Glad to hear they kept it how it was.  I never liked split controllers (N64, Xbox, etc)  I much prefer the symetrical Playstation style.  Right back to the first Dual Shock controllers.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 14:35

I've always hated the Playstation analog stick placement. The analog sticks were literally tacked on as an afterthought to the DualShock a while after the original PSX was released and have felt out of place ever since then. It always feels like I'm about to dislocate my thumbs whenever I'm using them.