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win8.1 Disable Windows Defender / AntiMalware Executable?

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I am an Administrator. This is Windows 8.1 Professional.

 

regedit - permission denied

task manager - permission denied

admin cmd net stop - permission denied

services.msc - permission denied

msconfig - does nothing

Attempting to disable Windows Defender through Windows Defender GUI - doesn't disable Windows Defender - it is still running in backgroung

 

And no I am not interested in reasons to keep it running in the background. I want my administrative rights back.

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I think Microsoft uses Windows Defender for protection until a different anti-virus program is installed and then it is automatically deactivated. Just trying to help, a little.

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I think Microsoft uses Windows Defender for protection until a different anti-virus program is installed and then it is automatically deactivated. Just trying to help, a little.

Requesting a fake antivirus program which does nothing but fool Windows Defender, thanks.

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Can you perform a system restore to a time before you had all those permission denied problems?

 

If not, maybe try booting to Safe Mode and using the built-in Administrator account?

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You can turn it off, defender--> settings--> administrator --> uncheck "turn on this application"

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And I restarted and it is not running anymore. What. :/

Considering I could not stop the service, is Microsoft thinking of depracating services.msc?

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Looks as if it's deeply baked in, you can't even uninstall it but installing another antivirus product should disable it.

Are you sure it's Windows Defender doing those things? It shouldn't block system applications from running, especially given they are write protected since Vista which should make them almost impossible to infect with viruses. Did you recently install software restriction policies or something similar? If so, sometimes UAC can block things even on admin accounts if you don't explicitly run something as admin

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You just need to open windows defender, go to settings > administrator > and uncheck "turn on this app".

 

edit: oops should have read all replies and noticed this was already posted.

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"Considering I could not stop the service, is Microsoft thinking of depracating services.msc?"

 

Its an antivirus application -- you wouldn't want it to just turn off via simple normal user interactive methods.. Or you running some simple code as you could do a simple net stop service and now no antivirus, etc.

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Or you running some simple code as you could do a simple net stop service and now no antivirus, etc.

 

but on 1st post he said:

 

I am an Administrator. This is Windows 8.1 Professional.

 

admin cmd net stop - permission denied
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^ exactly!!  What part did you not understand?  And who cares if he is administrator, its an antivirus application.

 

Here is the funny part in this whole thread.

 

". I want my administrative rights back."

 

Nobody took them, you as "administrator" need to understand how the OS works ;)

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Turning it off is foolish, stupid, and irresponsible. It's like saying "I am the admin so I should be able to turn off the ability to boot to the OS, or I should be able to turn off the ability to use the mouse". Yes you are the admin, and you CAN turn these off. You know how? Take a hammer and distroy your PC. That'll shut em off alright!

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you wouldn't want it to just turn off via simple normal user interactive methods..

 

Yet the option to turn it off is in defender itself and i would consider that a "normal user interactive method". I would not consider services.msc a "normal user interactive method" since regular users don't use it.

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Yet the option to turn it off is in defender itself and i would consider that a "normal user interactive method". I would not consider services.msc a "normal user interactive method" since regular users don't use it.

Exactly. Services is a the go-to for turning off things that you don't want running.

 

But, for the topic,

Solved for one computer by restarting.

Solved for the other through gpedit

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"I would not consider services.msc a "normal user interactive method" since regular users don't use it."

 

And is there an API or command line way of doing that?  Like there is with net stop service?  Or quick edit to the registry?

 

What is meant by normal user interactive is a way for a non elevated or even elevated account to be able to turn off the application without have to manipulate windows or screens..  If a normal account can send say a net stop command, or even a elevated account net stop antivirusservice -- that would not be good ;)  Or manipulate a simple reg key with a simple command

 

It is more than the OP that does not understand this basic concept?

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Windows 8.1 isn't Windows XP, you can't just simply turn things off even with being the admin. You have to go through the proper channels like +BudMan is saying.

 

Heck, there's some services you can't disable at all anymore, UAC for example, is not able to be disabled at all. 

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In a way I like that they are taking away the ability to easily administer computers, but it does make it slightly more difficult being that I have to google how to do something...No way in windows 8 to delete a wireless profile by point and click, cli only

netsh wlan show profiles

netsh wlan delete profile name="wlan profile name"

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In a way I like that they are taking away the ability to easily administer computers, but it does make it slightly more difficult being that I have to google how to do something...No way in windows 8 to delete a wireless profile by point and click, cli only

netsh wlan show profiles

netsh wlan delete profile name="wlan profile name"

I don't have a win8 machine that has wireless to test this myself, but are you saying they removed "manage wireless networks" from the network and sharing center? If so that is pretty ridiculous indeed. I do tech support for an ISP and removing saved profiles can often solve certain wireless issues.

 

Have you checked to see if it can be done via metro's "PC settings" screen? Maybe they moved it there.

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You should test it yourself.

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You should test it yourself.

I would, but I don't have access to a windows 8 machine that has wireless atm, so manage wireless networks wouldn't show for me either way.

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If you have Windows 8 try to setup a wireless connection manually.

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Helpful advice is telling people not to circumvent antimalware software.

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Windows 8.1 isn't Windows XP, you can't just simply turn things off even with being the admin. You have to go through the proper channels like +BudMan is saying.

 

Heck, there's some services you can't disable at all anymore, UAC for example, is not able to be disabled at all.

Off topic, but I really like your signature. Looks very nice, modern, and the colors are pleasing.

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