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#16 OP vetDirtyLarry

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 18:17

I haven't been able to install Creative drivers since Vista. They didn't work for me on Seven (the first x64 OS I ran full time), and they still don't work for me on Eight. I gave up on them and defaulted to Windows' built in drivers. 

 

Damn that sucks. They always worked no issues at all for me in both 7 and most recently 8. I was actually surprised as they seemed better than ever as well, never really liked them in XP. In fact the only reason I even stuck with them is I got the sound card for free. I may just uninstall the card and go onboard. However...

 

Creative drivers do suck. I would recommend looking at Daniel K's drivers. http://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

Hmmm, looks like he does not have drivers yet for my card.

 

However there does appear to be a fix for the issue I am having.

http://forums.creati...ad.php?t=699941

Apparently I need to install the drivers, change some settings, put the computer to sleep, reboot, and that should keep the Creative drivers active.

I think for now I will just stay with default. I may even go with my onboard sound. Will see.

 

 

my logitech software is forking fine with my g110 have not had any issues, i also updated the software via logitech software also

 

When it actually works, it seems to be working fine, it is just for whatever reason it does not always launch at startup and on top of that it is like it is nowhere to be found either. This is after a complete uninstall. Twice now actually.

 

It seems something at startup is interfering with it, thing is I do not have much going on at startup at all, so really not sure what it could be. I absolutely prefer to use the Logitech Software though over the Windows Default. My mouse has adjustable/programmable dpi which I always take advantage of, my keyboard has an LCD display that works with EVGA Precision X and allows me to monitor my temps, FPS, etc., so I really prefer that they stay working, just have no clue why they will not.

 

THanks Joe USer and Neu B on how to disable the MS account. (Y)

 

The upgrader literally forced me to set it up in order to proceed. I clicked back on that option 3 times hoping I could skip it, and it was the only way to actually proceed with the upgrade. That was suspect indeed.




#17 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 19:36

Are they trustworthy? 

 

Yes! Dan creates reverse engineered versions of the official drivers. Creative actually took him to court but ended up hiring him. He is allowed to post his stuff on the official creative fourms and nowhere else. So make sure you get them from there. I run them on my rig perfectly fine.



#18 OP vetDirtyLarry

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 13:37

So an update I can provide.

 

The trick of making changes to anything in the Creative Control Panel, then manually setting your computer to Sleep, does in fact keep the drivers running on a restart.

With that said, turns out you have to do this every single time before restarting your computer if you want to use this trick, which is just ridiculous.

So as of now, no Creative drivers on on my computer. I also could not install those other drivers as there are none for my device yet, although they are said to be coming.

 

On to the Logitech Gaming Software.

It is just very, very odd what is happening. I can install the Software, it works right away once I do, but when I restart, it just disappears.

The very strange thing is although they are gone, some of the settings I made in them appear to be working. My mouse has 5 programmable stages of DPI, and that appears to be fully functional when I change it via my mouse.

However my keyboard has an LCD on it, and if they software works I am able to load Applets on that LCD Display, and that is definitely not working.

I tried checking off run as an Administrator, and also tried playing around with Compatibility Mode, both under Task Manager > Startup > Properties of the Logitech Gaming Software, but again, the app itself just disappears on startup, although some features do in fact seem to be active. It is quite bewildering.

 

Java seems to be working with whatever version Servio installed as part of it's installer.

 

So yeah, looks like Logitech & especially Creative need to release some new drivers sooner rather than later.

 

If anyone knows of any 3rd party drivers compatible with a Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional series sound card, please share. I am willing to try anything at this point.

 

Just keeping my fingers crossed I can actually run Battlefield 4 tomorrow. Have it preloaded, and hoping the issues I am having do not wind up negatively impacting the game itself.

 

Thanks to everyone that offered advice and helped me troubleshoot this all. I absolutely regret going to 8.1 and just wish I stayed on 8.



#19 Starbuck84

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 14:11

I won't be of much help, but I can affirm the Logitech software being dodgy under Windows 8.1. I have a Solar keyboard and a M705 mouse. The unifying software installs, runs perfect, but is unable to detect any hardware. If I run the solar app (to check the battery) it says it's unable to find a compatible keyboard. Also if I try to connect a new piece of hardware to my unifying receiver (a new mouse) it's unable to detect it. The same receiver and keyboard / mouse works flawlessly under Windows 8.0 and Windows 7. I had to connect my new hardware using the unifying software under Windows 7 (another machine) to get my keyboard and mouse working again under 8.1.



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 23:49

I won't be of much help, but I can affirm the Logitech software being dodgy under Windows 8.1. I have a Solar keyboard and a M705 mouse. The unifying software installs, runs perfect, but is unable to detect any hardware. If I run the solar app (to check the battery) it says it's unable to find a compatible keyboard. Also if I try to connect a new piece of hardware to my unifying receiver (a new mouse) it's unable to detect it. The same receiver and keyboard / mouse works flawlessly under Windows 8.0 and Windows 7. I had to connect my new hardware using the unifying software under Windows 7 (another machine) to get my keyboard and mouse working again under 8.1.

Yeah, it is no longer working once again for myself either.

What is this unifying software? I have another machine with 7 on it, so if I can somehow getting it working using it, I would no doubt try it. Not having my side buttons on my mouse is really throwing me off in Battlefield 4 as I always bounded my knife to it.  :(

Also not having my usual good sound through my Creative sound card blows big time as well. This is really unfortunate, and I am heavily considering taking the 2-3 hours to revert back to plain 8.



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 00:00

Hmmm... disable fast bot, I was having trouble because of that on Windows 8....



#22 Starbuck84

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:12

Yeah, it is no longer working once again for myself either.

What is this unifying software? I have another machine with 7 on it, so if I can somehow getting it working using it, I would no doubt try it. Not having my side buttons on my mouse is really throwing me off in Battlefield 4 as I always bounded my knife to it.  :(

Also not having my usual good sound through my Creative sound card blows big time as well. This is really unfortunate, and I am heavily considering taking the 2-3 hours to revert back to plain 8.

Unifying from Logitech is a program which allows you to connect multiple Logitech devices to a single Logitech Unifying receiver. You're able to connect up to 6 different Unifying Logitech devices to one USB receiver. All this software does is connect a device to the receiver, but ever since Windows 8.1, it get the message no Unifying hardware is found. Had to disconnect my keyboard and mouse from the receiver and reconnect them using the same software under Windows 7. But if I buy or get a new Unifying capable Logitech device I won't be able to connect it under Windows 8.1, which is a shame. But I haven't tried my thumb buttons to be honest, will test that for you to see if that works.

 

Maybe contact Creative support and ask them when they plan on releasing a new driver? I know this is a long shot, but still, not being able to use your hardware after an update...



#23 Starbuck84

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:53

Just to get back at my previous answer: I tested my mouse buttons and all the "standard buttons" worked on my mouse. I have this mouse: http://www.logitech....nl/product/7108 . The left, middle, right mouse button, the side buttons (previous / next in your browser) worked, but the scrollwheel left / right scroll and my thumb button did not.

 

I uninstalled all my input related device drivers. I uninstalled my wacom driver, my laptop's touchpad driver, my HID keyboard drivers and used my power button to shut down my computer. During boot Windows automatically reinstalled my HID keyboard driver (logical) and I reinstalled my touchpad driver and mouse software, no my thumb buttons and left / right scrollwheel work fine again. Hope this helps you?