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A Canadian man living in Dubai is on trial for telling a customer service representative from his local telecom provider to ?###### off.?

As we North Americans know well?and the Australians know even better?you can tell a person to ?###### off? and be within your constitutional rights of free speech. You may be a class-A offender as an ######, but you?re not a criminal. At least not on this side of the globe. Over in the United Arab Emirates things work a wee bit differently.

A 43-year-old Canadian native living in Dubai was experiencing some frustration with his local telecom, Etisalat. Apparently some confusion over not receiving his bills at the correct address. We?ve all been there. However when the man told his client services representative to ?###### off? after their disagreement over the bills escalated to an argument, the Canadian quickly found himself on trial, being sued by the 29-year-old customer service rep, an Egyptian native.

The man?s lawyer mounted a charmingly reductive defense for him: In Canada, ?###### off? is simply not a swear.

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He wasn't in Canada though so I'm not sure how that defense is supposed to help him. Know the laws for where you live and follow them otherwise be prepared to pay the cost.

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Not happening everyday, but today, I am proud to be Canadian and say **** OFF to whoever I want.

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Customer service rep needs to grow some thicker skin.  He was called a name, suck it up and move on.  Leave the crying and wining for grade school.

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...and people talk about frivolous lawsuits in the US.

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I expect anyone who goes anywhere to adapt to the rules of that nation, or GTFO. If that's a serious thing to do there than so be it.

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I can understand the rep being annoyed by being told to "**** off", I've been there many times on the receiving end when I worked for Verizon Wireless even when things were not my fault. :( 

 

Lawsuit is a bit extreme though. :p

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I can understand the rep being annoyed by being told to "**** off", I've been there many times on the receiving end when I worked for Verizon Wireless even when things were not my fault. :(

 

Lawsuit is a bit extreme though. :p

I fully agree. I have witnessed such awful conversations with customer support that perhaps now deserve a life sentence. And I fully understand the customers too. Usually the problem is that they pay for something they don't receive so dropping their nerves would be something perfectly normal. If I were in customer support I'd just ask them to keep the good tone and if they don't I'll just hang up on them. No need to go extreme.

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Never understood why people want to move to or visit Dubai. You can't even sneeze without going to jail.

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I expect anyone who goes anywhere to adapt to the rules of that nation, or GTFO. If that's a serious thing to do there than so be it.

 

Yes exactly, but that doesn't apply to our countries it seems, which people seem to prefer to bend over and take it

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Dubai's days are numbered anyway. They squandered what was left of their oil money on misguided vanity projects built on sand.

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In the words of Lisa Simpson "Thank heavens for religious watchdog groups, keeping the world safe from the horrors of free expression"

 

:rofl:

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Yes exactly, but that doesn't apply to our countries it seems, which people seem to prefer to bend over and take it

 

What does that even mean? And, which countries are "ours"?

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What does that even mean? And, which countries are "ours"?

 

I, too, am not entirely sure what he's trying to say.

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What does that even mean? And, which countries are "ours"?

 

I, too, am not entirely sure what he's trying to say.

He's saying how western countries will bend over backwards to appease foreign people (just take a look at what's happening to London and western Europe in general) while these same people's countries provide zero leeway for foreigners.

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Sorry, but he should've respected their laws

And F**k off is recognised as a swear word in Canada.

And why didn't he simply hang up?

They would have called back later in the day, or the following day to discuss the bill when people had a chance to calm down..

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He might be lucky they didn't cut out his tongue.

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Customer service rep needs to grow some thicker skin.  He was called a name, suck it up and move on.  Leave the crying and wining for grade school.

 

Why? The CS rep is paid to help clients, not be verbally abused by them.  I say good for him for suing the butthole customer!  I hope the jerk gets reamed.

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In the words of Lisa Simpson "Thank heavens for religious watchdog groups, keeping the world safe from the horrors of free expression"

 

:rofl:

 

Since when is verbal abuse, free expression?

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In Australia, you're not considered normal if you don't swear and drink beer. I don't do either, and yep, people (especially my age) think I'm a little strange. Yes, I live in Australia, but have European blood.

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F*** off is actually a very polite and concise redneck way of saying nice to meet you and goodbye.

 

/s :laugh:

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Since when is verbal abuse, free expression?

 

It actually is free expression. That's why it's not against the law in the U.S. to tell someone to f**k off. You're free to express yourself verbally in almost any horrible way you want :)

 

Examples of speech not covered by free speech would be yelling fire in a crowded theatre, or threating someone's life.  

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This didn't happen in the US, so US definitions of what free expression is, do not apply any more than UK ones do, and verbal abuse is most explicitly NOT allowed under free expression by UK definitions.

 

Ours are just as applicable to this case as yours are; as in, not very. :p

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If you think f*** off is verbal abuse I'd say you're pretty thin skinned. I've heard far, far worse.

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If you think f*** off is verbal abuse I'd say you're pretty thin skinned. I've heard far, far worse.

What you think is irrelevant, only the recipients opinion matters.

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