Ryse: Son Of Rome - "Is As Fun As Dialing Phone Numbers"

[Thief000]

IGN calls it the best graphics of all the next gen titles, so to each his own.

 

Edit:

I'm starting to hate using IE11 on this website as I can't properly add URL's. The dialog box gets stuck.

Thanks vcfan!

[vcfan]

IGN calls it the best graphics of all the next gen titles, so to each his own.

 

Edit:

I'm starting to hate using IE11 on this website as I can't properly add URL's. The dialog box gets stuck.

click the lightswitch at the top left of the text editor , do your pasting, then click it back

[BajiRav]

I guess the views on this game will be down to the type of game you like playing, theres only so much you can do with a sword and stuff so the combination buttons wouldnt be very taxing. If you dont like swordy type of games then youd prolly get bored with this, although if its like spartacus series where you can kick em down and slice bits off and smash em in the face with your elbows and stuff it would be awesome.... holy **** what if you could control a game like that with the kinect, actually fight your fight bit like on Real Steel where the guy puts the bot into shadow mode and fights the last round again Zeus. It would be hulla complex but would be so good

I think both BF4 and CoD:G lack variety in combat mechanics - you just shoot bullets and throw grenades!

 

am I doing it right? :p

[Aergan]

Please don't compare it to Batman. Its an insult to that game. The animations in Batman and the flow of combat is spot on. The animations in Ryse are abysmal.

Oh and IGN liked the game? What a surprise. I wouldn't expect any journalistic integrity from them. Has there ever been a blockbuster game that they don't like???

Gameinformer are usually pretty spot on, as are joystiq who are also pretty damning. People like to live in denial though. As has been commented Neowin is a special place on the internet.

 

Edit: just watched that IGN video. Ha ha ha oh my sides. He just said every movement looks fluid and convincing ha ha ha oh dear.

 

Indeed, the only thing that can be compared to WB/Rocksteady's era of Batman games is the next one in the series.

[psionicinversion]

I think both BF4 and CoD:G lack variety in combat mechanics - you just shoot bullets and throw grenades!

 

am I doing it right? :p

 

yeah but BF4 is all about the multiplayer so its mainly about your skill at killing other people tbh. the single player is just to show off the engine and give you a chance to learn the mechanics of the game etc. Sometimes i like swordy type stuff. i liked darksiders 2 thats pretty much melee combat im not getting either console anyway so doesnt make any difference to me.

 

The downside to most single player games is the predictable AI so got to hope its not all that predictable and easy. The demo looks good a few posts up but to add to your comment about combat mechanics even if youve got a load of combos you can try youll end up finding that win all combination of moves/the one that easiest for you and does the job and stick with that through out then it becomes incredibly easy. In fps's sure the stuff in it can be as easy or as hard as you want i.e. easy = take your time picking stuff off safely or hard = charge in guns blazing..  depends what you like

[Crisp]

Button smashing!!

[kaotic]

Please don't compare it to Batman. Its an insult to that game. The animations in Batman and the flow of combat is spot on. The animations in Ryse are abysmal.

Oh and IGN liked the game? What a surprise. I wouldn't expect any journalistic integrity from them. Has there ever been a blockbuster game that they don't like???

Gameinformer are usually pretty spot on, as are joystiq who are also pretty damning. People like to live in denial though. As has been commented Neowin is a special place on the internet.

 

Edit: just watched that IGN video. Ha ha ha oh my sides. He just said every movement looks fluid and convincing ha ha ha oh dear.

 

I think they're pretty good. :/

[trooper11]

People like to live in denial though. As has been commented Neowin is a special place on the internet.

 

 

You know what, this has become a tired trolling remark that I see thrown around often. 

 

Goodness, can't even talk about a game without the auto attack being that anything positive said is denial. 

[Praetor]

people forget that great games aren't always the ones with the better graphics. Half Life didn't had better graphics but had an amazing, immersive and going through story (just as long one forgets the Xen part, that is). It's the story, the replay value that keeps one coming and playing over and over.

[dead.cell]

FWIW I have never liked the idea behind this game from the moment it was announced years ago. I haven't suddenly changed my mind because of the X1 or Microsoft's recent history.

 

Was anyone really expecting this to be good?

 

It is from Crytek remember? A company with an ego so big they have to shoe horn their company name into every title.

Pretty much in agreement here. Felt soulless when I looked at all the previews, and I couldn't figure out what people were going on about. This is why I dislike hype sometimes, as it clouds judgment from seeing what the game really is. I've played enough bad games to trust my gut nowadays. :P

[trooper11]

Pretty much in agreement here. Felt soulless when I looked at all the previews, and I couldn't figure out what people were going on about. This is why I dislike hype sometimes, as it clouds judgment from seeing what the game really is. I've played enough bad games to trust my gut nowadays. :p

I just wanted something different from all the fps games out there.

I mean really, this could have been a great launch title considering the lack of games in the genre. I'm disappointed to hear they may have left a lot to be desired.

But lets keep in mind that some people reviewing the game actually liked it, so you cant really call that being blind or overhyped. Its just different tastes in games.

Take Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, or Beyond: Two Souls as examples of games that people actually liked and yet were panned by others.

Technical problems are one thing, but it seems like sometimes people like to project what they like in a game to be what everyone does. But your right about hype. The internet is notorious for creating angry mobs over hyped up games or devices. Hype is a messy thing and thing would be a lot quieter if there was less of it.

[+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹]

I did not really expect a good story or gameplay from Crytek, but i will wait for other reviews.

[IsItPluggedIn]

There are 3 major parts to a game, Story line, game play and Graphics.

 

You can have a poor story as long as the gameplay is fun. (BF, CS, COD)

 

You can have poor gameplay if the story is good.(not as much as above but still)(FF)

 

But you cant have a good graphics and expect it to make up for missing the above.

 

 

I just hope the Story line is good, if it struggles the game will.

[George P Global Moderator]

Not to downgrade the Batman Arkham games, and the combat does flow well, but it's hardly anything other than hitting the same 2 buttons with the odd combo once you're in focus mode.  The combat is hardly advanced like some other games out there in the past.  Bayonetta for example, all the flash aside, had a very deep combat system with a crazy amount of combinations to master.  Batman does not, basically every fight I've been in is, X X X X, Y to counter, X X X, and once I'm in focus I might just toss out a Y+B takedown to mix things up, or I can keep hitting X in focus to jump around so quick the enemies just stand there to attack.   

 

Again, not that it's bad in any way, it's fun, but lets call it what it is,  and it's not really that deep at all.   The mechanics at the core of the Arkham games and what they did in Ryse is the same thing, they even have focus, and call it focus of all things, and this allows you to do a timed execution other wise it's just attack, counter/block and attack again.  No different from the Batman games. 

[the better twin]

Not to downgrade the Batman Arkham games, and the combat does flow well, but it's hardly anything other than hitting the same 2 buttons with the odd combo once you're in focus mode.  The combat is hardly advanced like some other games out there in the past.  Bayonetta for example, all the flash aside, had a very deep combat system with a crazy amount of combinations to master.  Batman does not, basically every fight I've been in is, X X X X, Y to counter, X X X, and once I'm in focus I might just toss out a Y+B takedown to mix things up, or I can keep hitting X in focus to jump around so quick the enemies just stand there to attack.   

 

Again, not that it's bad in any way, it's fun, but lets call it what it is,  and it's not really that deep at all.   The mechanics at the core of the Arkham games and what they did in Ryse is the same thing, they even have focus, and call it focus of all things, and this allows you to do a timed execution other wise it's just attack, counter/block and attack again.  No different from the Batman games. 

If that's all you are doing you wouldn't last long against the different enemy types. Cape stun, quick fire gadgets, dodge, aerial attack, knife dodge/takedown, all the other combos like batarang takedown etc. Besides the combat is only one portion of the game of course with large variety in the predator/ detective bits. 

Regardless, I know I am wasting my breath. 

[Fourjays Veteran]

Pretty much in agreement here. Felt soulless when I looked at all the previews, and I couldn't figure out what people were going on about. This is why I dislike hype sometimes, as it clouds judgment from seeing what the game really is. I've played enough bad games to trust my gut nowadays. :p

Same here. Can't say I'm surprised by some of the negative reviews. All the gameplay videos I've watched looks like you just mash buttons. It's a shame, as I'd really like to see a good Rome-based game series. They should have looked at other games that do sword combat... it isn't easy but it is possible to do good swordplay in games.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

It looks like a flashy action-packed game. There are people out there that like that sort of thing. I don't plan on buying it but I'll wait for more reviews before I say it's good, mediocre, or bad.

[spenser.d]

It looks like a flashy action-packed game. There are people out there that like that sort of thing. I don't plan on buying it but I'll wait for more reviews before I say it's good, mediocre, or bad.

I'd probably give the game a shot. I like games with depth as much as the next person, but I'll take flashy as well to break things up. Probably wouldn't pay full price though.

[Showan]

Ryse doesn't look like my cup of tea at all... But I am happy with the chance that Microsoft took in letting Crytek develop a new IP...  Lesson learned and maybe Ryse 2 (if possible) will be something to brag about...

 

Cause all gamers seem to want is, CoD part 22, BF9, Halo 28, Uncharted 7-10, God of War 19.....

 

Happy to see new things being tried... even if they fail... Can't fly unless you try... Can't be worse than Haze...

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

The thing with most games like this, you get out as much as you put it. You can button mash and it works fine but to really get the most out of it you need to play properly as it were and learn the different methods of play and combos. 

 

I had the same reservation after seeing demos and trailers etc, it was only after I'd actually played it I realised it is much better.

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

i wasnt very hopeful for this game, however it seemed like the dude over at IGN liked the gameplay.

[George P Global Moderator]

If that's all you are doing you wouldn't last long against the different enemy types. Cape stun, quick fire gadgets, dodge, aerial attack, knife dodge/takedown, all the other combos like batarang takedown etc. Besides the combat is only one portion of the game of course with large variety in the predator/ detective bits. 

Regardless, I know I am wasting my breath. 

 

You don't have to quick fire gadgets at all, it's a nice bonus but not really needed.  Cape stun is a different button, sure and you have to use it but in limited situations.  Knife dodge is the same counter process but you either hold the counter button down and push back or you tap it at the right time to disarm.     You're going off though, those are nice extras on top of the core fighting mechanic that is basically hit and counter until you enter focus mode.  

 

I like how you say the combat is also only one portion of the game, the same can be said for others, even Ryse has shown it has something else.  

 

Regardless, I to know i'm probably wasting my breath.  But since you wanted to nitpick and expand on things I might as well humor you.

[trooper11]

Its funny how some people just want to jump on the bandwagon of negative posts and then insinuate that anyone not in that group is a fanboy or troll. Its bit like crying wolf.

Its just a game people. If there are technical problems, then everyone will hate it. But when your arguing over things like gameplay, story, etc, it becomes much more subjective and open to opinion. COD: Ghost has been panned as an average or worse game by many reviewers, and yet lots of gamers still want to play it.

As far as this game goes, that first review made me feel like the game wouldn't be for me, but then I hear other reviewers contradict that and I am left to decide for myself. Maybe there will be a demo or at least more gameplay videos soon. As of right now, I fall on the side of not liking what I'm hearing, same as others in this thread. Other reviews and demos may change that.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Ryse doesn't look like my cup of tea at all... But I am happy with the chance that Microsoft took in letting Crytek develop a new IP...  Lesson learned and maybe Ryse 2 (if possible) will be something to brag about...

 

Cause all gamers seem to want is, CoD part 22, BF9, Halo 28, Uncharted 7-10, God of War 19.....

 

Happy to see new things being tried... even if they fail... Can't fly unless you try... Can't be worse than Haze...

 

Wow I actually agree with Showan for once :laugh:

 

It would have been so easy for Crytek to make another sci-fi shooter like Crysis or go with the crowd and make a military shooter like BF/CoD so I'm happy they did something new too. Unfortunately I just never had any interest in this game. It's not because of the swords etc, it just wasn't my cup of tea and I knew as soon as I saw it years ago I was passing on it. Doesn't matter what the reviews are like, if it were 4K or whatever, just not for me.

 

I hope if they do work with MS again it won't be Ryse 2 though :p

[trooper11]

Wow I actually agree with Showan for once :laugh:

 

It would have been so easy for Crytek to make another sci-fi shooter like Crysis or go with the crowd and make a military shooter like BF/CoD so I'm happy they did something new too. Unfortunately I just never had any interest in this game. It's not because of the swords etc, it just wasn't my cup of tea and I knew as soon as I saw it years ago I was passing on it. Doesn't matter what the reviews are like, if it were 4K or whatever, just not for me.

 

I hope if they do work with MS again it won't be Ryse 2 though :p

 

 

Hey look at that, another great post. 

 

I agree completely.