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#16 mudslag

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:05

Instead of the trash talk; let's find a way to debunk the story. Let's contribute to the post without all the senseless bashing.. This is why we got out post count removed.. We just got it back. :)



How about proving the story is first true before asking others to debunk such a wild claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:08

Shouldn't this be in the jokes section?

Hey -- it's on the Internet ... it must be true. ;)



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:11

Instead of the trash talk; let's find a way to debunk the story. Let's contribute to the post without all the senseless bashing.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on those making the claims, not those refuting them.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:20

If this would be true, don't you think the republicans would have found this out way before the second election?

They hate Obama with a passion (I still think it's because he's black) so they would have tried anything to make him look bad.

 

This coming out now when he can't be reelected is a non story



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:27

This is why the GOP is down to a 22% approval rating. They are so desperate to get Obama. It's pathetic.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:42

If this would be true, don't you think the republicans would have found this out way before the second election?

They hate Obama with a passion (I still think it's because he's black) so they would have tried anything to make him look bad.

 

This coming out now when he can't be reelected is a non story

It is because he is black. Its the only reason there is so much resistance to anything he has done. Look at the total number of filibusters that have been done since he has been in office vs all the other presidents. They are doing any and everything they can to make him look bad. Had he been white things would be so different now. Don't get me wrong I love that we finally have a black president. However I think it was just too soon for this country which is so heavily seated in racism. This past election brought out the worst in people that I know. I had to take a second look at some of the people I know because of this. What hurts me the most is when I see uppity black folks who forgot where they came from and try to be republicans and totally forget they could be pull back to their un-humble beginnings.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:44

It's not possible for Obama to be: gay and straight; Muslim, Christian and atheist; born in Hawaii, Kenya and Indonesia; an opponent of guns while passing legislation to increase the amount of places you can take guns, etc. Conservatives are their own worst enemies, as the claims being made are completely contradictory - even if one of them were to be true nobody would believe it because of the number of lies that have been made.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:44

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on those making the claims, not those refuting them.

 

 

How about proving the story is first true before asking others to debunk such a wild claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I was referring to the post that did not offer anything productive.. Yes, they are wild accusations.. but instead of posting crap, post something productive and actually has value to the conversation. 



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:51

I was referring to the post that did not offer anything productive.. Yes, they are wild accusations.. but instead of posting crap, post something productive and actually has value to the conversation. 

Playing devil's advocate here, but telling people to do this doesn't bring anything of value to the conversation either.  You just shifted it to a topic of who is required with burden of proof.

 

;)



#25 theyarecomingforyou

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:52

I love that we finally have a black president. However I think it was just too soon for this country which is so heavily seated in racism.

I disagree. The election of a black president has highlighted how racist the country really is, conservatives in particular. The baseless attacks and vitriol directed at him have only weakened the GOP. Now that these issues are finally out in the open it's possible to tackle them.



#26 fusi0n

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:54

Playing devil's advocate here, but telling people to do this doesn't bring anything of value to the conversation either.  You just shifted it to a topic of who is required with burden of proof.

 

;)

I see what you are saying, but over thought the point I was trying to make. When topics like this start brewing.. they usually end up in flame wars.. I was just suggesting posting something the debunks or supports the story. That is all :D



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:55

wouldnt surprise me if it was true



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:55

Maybe Obama should have been gay. It would have made the GOP explode. There'd be nothing left of DC. 



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:57

I disagree. The election of a black president has highlighted how racist the country really is, conservatives in particular. The baseless attacks and vitriol directed at him have only weakened the GOP. Now that these issues are finally out in the open it's possible to tackle them.

I agree; I don't think there is a right or wrong time for a black president.. I think race should have nothing to do with politics.. However, since his presidency, it has this country more racially divided than ever. Not just with "race', but class warfare, religion.. 

 

With that said.. It could also be that I am a good bit older and seeing more of how wicked the world we live in really is.. 



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 13:58

The election of a black president has highlighted how racist the country really is

 

It really REALLY has!





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