DocM Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 No it won't because HFCS can be shipped in a concentrate then diluted to use strength. BTW: agave is worse for you than HFCS - up to 90% fructose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted November 9, 2013 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2013 havent they been trying to fan trans-fats for decades and never managed to get it passed? i know the regulation on them is the reason that McDonalds and Burger King had to change the way they made their fries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier1st Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 In a capitalist world, anything a company can do to make a profit, it will do. In this case, trans fats are an easy way to make up for terrible quality foods. They're tricking consumers who don't know just how bad trans fats are. Education without a doubt should be a focus and it's terrible that education is never an option for the government. The government only cares about money and power. If the consumer dies, then oh well. The mafia are involved as well. gameboy1977 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Well, this won't really make a difference until we can tackle moderation, which ultimately is in the control of the consumer. (though the supersized garbage doesn't help) trieste and Bryan R. 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The issue is the quantities it is used in and in particular the use of HFCS. Sugar is the primary contributor to obesity. And who told you that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 And who told you that ? Science. MightyJordan and trieste 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Science. Hum doesn't believe in science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 can we go after aspartame now? The artificial sweetener that has had mroe research done than ANY other ingredient known to man, yet still hasn't been found to be dangerous in any way or cause any of the problems it has been blamed for since that very old research the researcher admitted was faulty himself... Rippleman and MightyJordan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The artificial sweetener that has had mroe research done than ANY other ingredient known to man, yet still hasn't been found to be dangerous in any way or cause any of the problems it has been blamed for since that very old research the researcher admitted was faulty himself... Do you have any sources that are not Government funded? I found about just as many websites saying it is bad as there are saying it is ok.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 The aspartame argument is losing relevance as newer sweeteners are brought to market, most notably Stevia which is based on a S. American plant. In these parts it's gradually taking over the shelves. trieste 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do you have any sources that are not Government funded? I found about just as many websites saying it is bad as there are saying it is ok.. Do you have any sources that say aspartame is bad, except, statements with no proof by the usual conspiracy nuts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The aspartame argument is losing relevance as newer sweeteners are brought to market, most notably Stevia which is based on a S. American plant. In these parts it's gradually taking over the shelves. which is another stupid argument, use Stevia, it's natural so it's not bad. since when did stuff automatically become good because they're natural. many of the worst poisons in the world are natural. Lets see what happens when they put as much research into stevia as they have aspartame... except they won't because the amount of research gone into aspartame is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I believe that real sugar came from the plant, and it called sugar cane. The sugar-free is very bad health for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I believe that real sugar came from the plant, and it called sugar cane. The sugar-free is very bad health for you. and the proof for this is ? more of this everything natural is good nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 which is another stupid argument, use Stevia, it's natural so it's not bad. since when did stuff automatically become good because they're natural. many of the worst poisons in the world are natural. Lets see what happens when they put as much research into stevia as they have aspartame... except they won't because the amount of research gone into aspartame is ridiculous.Stevia is only "new" in the US mainly due to political influence in the FDA by the artificial sweetener industry. The rest of the world has been using it for ages.Stevia has been used as a sweetener and treatment for diabetes in S. America for centuries, and there are international studies showing it safe (and in many beneficial) for almost 50 years. Animal tudies in Japan have shown lower rates of breast cancer and kidney disease even with gimormous doses/kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 just as there are international studies showing aspartam is safe. far more than there is for Stevia. introducing stevia doesn't make aspartam any less of an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Aspartame should be avoided simply on the basis of the horrible aftertaste and the headaches it causes, especially when sucralose?a widely used alternative?doesn't have those problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Aspartame should be avoided simply on the basis of the horrible aftertaste and the headaches it causes, especially when sucralose?a widely used alternative?doesn't have those problems. Well lets face it, there's absolutely NO good tasting light sodas, aspartame, sucralose or stevia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttus Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The aspartame argument is losing relevance as newer sweeteners are brought to market, most notably Stevia which is based on a S. American plant. In these parts it's gradually taking over the shelves. and monk fruit, which tastes really nice! i'm not a big fan of the flavor of stevia, but it's ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notta Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Just another step towards that embedded tracking chip or can I please see your papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 just as there are international studies showing aspartam is safe. far more than there is for Stevia. introducing stevia doesn't make aspartam any less of an alternative.Market since 2009 seems to indicate many people do see Stevia as an alternative. Equal (aspartame): down 23% Sweet 'n Low (saccharin): down 26% Splenda (sucralose): down 40% Stevia (Steviol glycoside) : up 289% (and accelerating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 which wasn't even the point of my post though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 In any case, what's the point of banning transfat, when they all replace it with cheap palm oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 That depends on the palm oil, fruit or kernel. They aren't the same. Fruit oil (aka red) is lower in saturated fats but also high in carotenoids (beta carotene etc.) and so healthier while still being solid at room temps. Not perfect, but better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Palm oil, generally from the palm oil tree, is being gradually removed here due it being extremely unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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